Transgender Rights

[stip]

There's not a coordinated gay council somewhere coordinating opposition, though. It's entirely possible some of the things you've described will happen. None of these are mutually exclusive. One advantage of this strategy is that it sends a message that the backlash against these actions is not limited to a few liberal lawyers. Funneling money into an election is quite possibly more likely to just mobilize supporters in opposition to the opposition, since I presume for most NCers without any pain this issue is just not going to percolate to the top of someone's agenda, motivate them to vote, pressure politicians to change votes, etc.

We shall see.

[Simple Torture]

NBA is giving NC 30 days to repeal before they move the 2017 All-Star game.

http://abcnews.com.co/nba-cancels-all-s ... -lgbt-hb2/

Turns out this story was fake. Oops!

[B]

Wow. They reported that shit on NPR.

[Simple Torture]

Yeah, a lot of news outlets picked it up: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/f ... a-anto-gay

[Norah]

Say it with me now, call and confirm.

[knee tunes]

Say it with me now, call and confirm.

meow

[b_i_revisited]

Drop this gem here:

"I think that porn has the power to do what Bruce Springsteen can't."

[stip]

[B]

Pfffft! That's like my 8th favorite porn site. No biggie.

[b_i_revisited]

There's not a coordinated gay council somewhere coordinating opposition, though. It's entirely possible some of the things you've described will happen. None of these are mutually exclusive. One advantage of this strategy is that it sends a message that the backlash against these actions is not limited to a few liberal lawyers. Funneling money into an election is quite possibly more likely to just mobilize supporters in opposition to the opposition, since I presume for most NCers without any pain this issue is just not going to percolate to the top of someone's agenda, motivate them to vote, pressure politicians to change votes, etc.

We shall see.

This statement from GLAAD is more in line with my thinking on the subject:

GLAAD Calls On Music Industry For Support
Bruce Springsteen may be the latest performer to boycott North Carolina over its law seen as discriminatory against the LGBT community, but now one group is urging performers not to follow The Boss' lead.

The organization North Carolina Needs You started a new initiative over the weekend aimed at encouraging performers to keep their shows in the state in order to generate money locally and speak out against the controversial legislation.

The group began their push after Springsteen canceled his date in Greensboro last Friday in response to the so-called "religious freedom" law viewed as an attempt to roll back protections for gay and transgender people.

"We need you here, in North Carolina, helping to raise money and awareness in order to defeat such policies and the politicians who enacted and defend them," a statement from the group said.

Opponents of the law are asking performers to keep their shows and use the stage as a platform to make a statement or to donate their profits to advocacy groups fighting for the LGBT community. "

BUT, if this is true, the boycott may have been at least partially effective:

http://governor.nc.gov/press-release/go ... d-equality

[B]

Alright, so I'm looking at Romer v. Evans, which struck down a law in Colorado that prevented protections for homosexuals by any states, counties, or municipalities. Given that precedent, how can HB2 which seems to do the exact same thing be Constitutional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romer_v._Evans

[B]

Our governor wants backsies.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/13/us/no ... .html?_r=0

[B]

Alright, so I'm looking at Romer v. Evans, which struck down a law in Colorado that prevented protections for homosexuals by any states, counties, or municipalities. Given that precedent, how can HB2 which seems to do the exact same thing be Constitutional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romer_v._Evans

Where the fuck is Nick?

[Green Habit]

Alright, so I'm looking at Romer v. Evans, which struck down a law in Colorado that prevented protections for homosexuals by any states, counties, or municipalities. Given that precedent, how can HB2 which seems to do the exact same thing be Constitutional?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romer_v._Evans

Where the fuck is Nick?

Here I am. I'm sure that's what the ACLU and others that are suing NC are relying on.

[McParadigm]

There's not a coordinated gay council somewhere coordinating opposition, though. It's entirely possible some of the things you've described will happen. None of these are mutually exclusive. One advantage of this strategy is that it sends a message that the backlash against these actions is not limited to a few liberal lawyers. Funneling money into an election is quite possibly more likely to just mobilize supporters in opposition to the opposition, since I presume for most NCers without any pain this issue is just not going to percolate to the top of someone's agenda, motivate them to vote, pressure politicians to change votes, etc.

We shall see.

This statement from GLAAD is more in line with my thinking on the subject:

GLAAD Calls On Music Industry For Support
Bruce Springsteen may be the latest performer to boycott North Carolina over its law seen as discriminatory against the LGBT community, but now one group is urging performers not to follow The Boss' lead.

The organization North Carolina Needs You started a new initiative over the weekend aimed at encouraging performers to keep their shows in the state in order to generate money locally and speak out against the controversial legislation.

The group began their push after Springsteen canceled his date in Greensboro last Friday in response to the so-called "religious freedom" law viewed as an attempt to roll back protections for gay and transgender people.

"We need you here, in North Carolina, helping to raise money and awareness in order to defeat such policies and the politicians who enacted and defend them," a statement from the group said.

Opponents of the law are asking performers to keep their shows and use the stage as a platform to make a statement or to donate their profits to advocacy groups fighting for the LGBT community. "

BUT, if this is true, the boycott may have been at least partially effective:

http://governor.nc.gov/press-release/go ... d-equality

"You know, I was in an ethical quandary, but after the Bruce Springsteen show my mind is really changed on that one issue," said nobody ever. "And I've also learned to count to four."

[B]

North Carolina is not a “home rule” state. Local governments are the creation of and under the control of the state. The legislature has the constitutional authority to overturn any ordinance established by any local government. Agree or disagree with their actions but legislators were well within their authority to overturn Charlotte’s bathroom ordinance. They were similarly justified in overturning local government attempts to raise minimum wage levels in their municipalities above the state proscribed level.

I suppose this is bad news for us.
http://www.ncspin.com/republicans-took-the-bait/

I love the Newspeak. "Home rule" means you're home town doesn't rule.

[simple schoolboy]

North Carolina is not a “home rule” state. Local governments are the creation of and under the control of the state. The legislature has the constitutional authority to overturn any ordinance established by any local government. Agree or disagree with their actions but legislators were well within their authority to overturn Charlotte’s bathroom ordinance. They were similarly justified in overturning local government attempts to raise minimum wage levels in their municipalities above the state proscribed level.

I suppose this is bad news for us.
http://www.ncspin.com/republicans-took-the-bait/

I love the Newspeak. "Home rule" means you're home town doesn't rule.

I presume this is pretty standard across the US. Cities are an extension of the state. Any alternative is in the minority. Unless your 'home rule' refers to something else...

[McParadigm]

There's not a coordinated gay council somewhere coordinating opposition, though

Then what was that thing with the ring, the cute blonde fellow, and Ian McKellan as co-chair?

[stip]

There's not a coordinated gay council somewhere coordinating opposition, though

Then what was that thing with the ring, the cute blonde fellow, and Ian McKellan as co-chair?

whatever it was, I assure you it was fabulous

[Green Habit]

Bruce Springsteen cancelled his show this weekend in Greensboro. I'd appreciate it if no one mentions this to Pearl Jam.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... =15&t=7604