Pearl Jam Cancels Their NC Show

[spike]

Pantyhose Yesterdays

[evenslow]

As a PJ fan, I'm disappointed because this feels like a poorly handled half-assed attempt at fighting for a cause, from a band that used to fight passionately for the causes they believed in.

To single out one passage of your post - just because Ed's not writing some message on his arm with magic marker doesn't mean they're not fighting passionately for stuff. The amount of money they continue to give to an array of causes is pretty damn impressive.

[evenslow]

I know that supposedly makes me some sort of fanboi, but they don't get nearly enough credit for the good shit they do around here.

[Strat]

I know that supposedly makes me some sort of fanboi, but they don't get nearly enough credit for the good shit they do around here.

thank you. and you are absolutely correct. If people here enjoyed their recent output as much as their "glory day" output, they would be applauding this.

[McParadigm]

So.... are the pearl jam guys all transgender folks now? Do they hang with Jenner now? Pi## off Pearl Jam. North Carolina won't miss your sorry show. Go North Carolina. I don't want scumbag Men proclaiming to be a woman going into the women's bathroom and doing what EVER they want when they get in there.

[evenslow]

To think, the place where I take a shit might be desecrated.

[tragabigzanda]

pearl jam sucks now

[evenslow]

they abandoned the idea that the music can actually cause a huge change in the world, and have instead opted to milk their back catalog so they can financially support the causes they believe in.

I don't think the core problem is that of abandonment. They're a rock and roll band that has been around for 25 years. I don't care who you are, your ability to create change through art in a five person collective (working in an outdated form) is just not gonna be the same.

[stip]

I know that supposedly makes me some sort of fanboi, but they don't get nearly enough credit for the good shit they do around here.

Hey, I agree completely -- they do a ton of great work in a world full of suffering. But I can't help but feel that somewhere along the way, they abandoned the idea that the music can actually cause a huge change in the world, and have instead opted to milk their back catalog so they can financially support the causes they believe in. I just wish the new music carried the same passion for change as their older stuff.

backspacer is a very passionate record

[Kaius]

So.... are the pearl jam guys all transgender folks now? Do they hang with Jenner now? Pi## off Pearl Jam. North Carolina won't miss your sorry show. Go North Carolina. I don't want scumbag Men proclaiming to be a woman going into the women's bathroom and doing what EVER they want when they get in there.

What do they do in there?

[spike]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

[LoathedVermin72]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

[Strat]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

Absolutely. I believe they understand the consequence of them canceling their shows and i know they feel the impact of upsetting their fans, yet they are moving forward what they believe to be right. That is what pearl jam is. Fuck yea.

[lowlight79]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

2003 ed yes, 2016 Ed no

[Strat]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

2003 ed yes, 2016 Ed no

Oh come on. Why? Because you dont like the last few albums?

[lowlight79]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

2003 ed yes, 2016 Ed no

Oh come on. Why? Because you dont like the last few albums?

That's actually the opposite, I love the last few albums, not playing the show is a cop out.

[Strat]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

2003 ed yes, 2016 Ed no

Oh come on. Why? Because you dont like the last few albums?

That's actually the opposite, I love the last few albums, not playing the show is a cop out.

Cop out from what?

[Strat]

2003 ed would have cancelled the show (or not even toured the south to begin with) and wrote a letter and burned a mask and written a terrible song about it.

[Leatherhead]

We had to make a real tough call, and we had to make a call about what we would do about a situation in North Carolina. Because they’ve got a law there that broadly broadly discriminates against a whole group of people. And I can’t tell from here if you’re booing North Carolina, if you are booing us for having to decide that we are not going to play there, I would understand that too. It was a hard process because we really thought we could still play and make things right and that we could fortify all the people on the ground looking to repeal this despicable law, we thought we could take the money and give it to them and still play the show. But the reality is there’s nothing like the immense power of boycotting and [pulling?] a string, and it’s a shame because people are going to be affected who don’t deserve it, but it could be the way that ultimately is going to affect change, again we just couldn’t find it in ourselves in good conscience to cross a picket line […?]. So we apologize to those in Raleigh, we apologize to those who are going to Raleigh, we apologize to the locals who probably believe in the same things that we do. They have a reason to be pissed, and we’re pissed off too. But we gotta be pissed off at the right people and get them to change their minds because they made a mistake, a big mistake, and they can fix it. So tonight we play this one all the soldiers in the LGBT community. [Patriot]

This really feels genuine to me. I give 'em props.

2003 ed yes, 2016 Ed no

Oh come on, there's no moneygrabbing here.

[Birds in Hell]

Ed is definitely less embarrassing now than he was in 2003 or 2006.

The G W Bush years seemed to send him a bit nutty, which is understandable. He's toned down his rhetoric since.