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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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This thread will only lead to another Sci Fi or Fantasy argument.
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CopperTom wrote:This thread will only lead to another Sci Fi or Fantasy argument.

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i still need to watch black mirror

and read more phillip k dick....i really enjoyed do androids dream of electric sheep (though blade runner was a bit disappointing)...i know they're different, but i genuinely like the movies based on his works
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i still need to watch black mirror

and read more phillip k dick....i really enjoyed do androids dream of electric sheep (though blade runner was a bit disappointing)...i know they're different, but i genuinely like the movies based on his works
lenny, did you see the director's cut of Blade Runner? The ending is much better and there is no voice over.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:i still need to watch black mirror

and read more phillip k dick....i really enjoyed do androids dream of electric sheep (though blade runner was a bit disappointing)...i know they're different, but i genuinely like the movies based on his works
lenny, did you see the director's cut of Blade Runner? The ending is much better and there is no voice over.
i haven't yet...i've heard that before though

i'm not sure it would elevate a ton for me...and that's not to say i dislike it at all, it just doesn't grab me like it seems to most otherz
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This could be good. I just got back from seeing Blade Runner: The Final Cut in the theater as a one off showing.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Meddle wrote:This could be good. I just got back from seeing Blade Runner: The Final Cut in the theater as a one off showing.
Awesome, would love to see any cut on a big screen someday.
It was pretty cool seeing one of my favorite movies on the big screen for the first time after seeing it so many times on DVD. Definitely worth it.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Really great short film here, worth the 15 minutes

https://www.shortoftheweek.com/2018/04/03/hyperlight/
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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My absolute favorite sci-fi factlet is that in the 1970s and 80s the American Marxist literary critic Fredric Jameson wrote extensively about science-fiction through his theory on the political efficacy of narrative. One of his most used examples was Philip K. Dick. At some point Dick got word of this and wrote a letter the CIA asking them to get this communist fucker to stop writing about him.
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Did anyone besides malice here ever read any William Gibson? This paragraph from Pattern Recognition is the RM experience, to a T.
She enters the forum itself now, automatically scanning titles of the posts and names of posters in the newer threads, looking for friends, enemies, news. One thing is clear, though; no new footage has surfaced. Nothing since that beach pan, and she does not subscribe to the theory that it is Cannes in winter. French footageheads have been unable to match it, in spite of countless hours recording pans across approximately similar scenery.

She also sees that her friend Parkaboy is back in Chicago, home from an Amtrak vacation, California, but when she opens his post she sees that he's only saying hello, literally. She clicks Respond, declares herself CayceP. Hi Parkaboy. When she returns to the forum page, her post is there.

It is a way now, approximately, of being at home. The forum has become one of the most consistent places in her life, like a familiar café that exists somehow outside of geography and beyond time zones. There are perhaps twenty regular posters on F:F:F, and some much larger and uncounted number of lurkers.

And right now there are three people in Chat, but there's no way of knowing exactly who until you are in there, and the chat room she finds not so comforting. It's strange even with friends, like sitting in a pitch-dark cellar conversing with people at a distance of about fifteen feet. The hectic speed, and the brevity of the lines in the thread, plus the feeling that everyone is talking at once, at counter-purposes, deter her.
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Did anyone besides malice here ever read any William Gibson? This paragraph from Pattern Recognition is the RM experience, to a T.
She enters the forum itself now, automatically scanning titles of the posts and names of posters in the newer threads, looking for friends, enemies, news. One thing is clear, though; no new footage has surfaced. Nothing since that beach pan, and she does not subscribe to the theory that it is Cannes in winter. French footageheads have been unable to match it, in spite of countless hours recording pans across approximately similar scenery.

She also sees that her friend Parkaboy is back in Chicago, home from an Amtrak vacation, California, but when she opens his post she sees that he's only saying hello, literally. She clicks Respond, declares herself CayceP. Hi Parkaboy. When she returns to the forum page, her post is there.

It is a way now, approximately, of being at home. The forum has become one of the most consistent places in her life, like a familiar café that exists somehow outside of geography and beyond time zones. There are perhaps twenty regular posters on F:F:F, and some much larger and uncounted number of lurkers.

And right now there are three people in Chat, but there's no way of knowing exactly who until you are in there, and the chat room she finds not so comforting. It's strange even with friends, like sitting in a pitch-dark cellar conversing with people at a distance of about fifteen feet. The hectic speed, and the brevity of the lines in the thread, plus the feeling that everyone is talking at once, at counter-purposes, deter her.
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I read Pattern Recognition on your recommendation, Reid.
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What did you think?
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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