There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.digster wrote:Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.
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He also makes a mistake and then freaks the fuck out at the end of the West Palm Beach version of "Save You". One of the rare occasions where a mistake made for a better version.Kevin Davis wrote:There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.digster wrote:Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.
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Ha. I vaguely remember this oneWendy Carlos's Twin wrote:He also makes a mistake and then freaks the fuck out at the end of the West Palm Beach version of "Save You". One of the rare occasions where a mistake made for a better version.Kevin Davis wrote:There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.digster wrote:Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.
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I just watched the video. He defintienly screws up and delivers a nasty emotional solo to close out the last portion of the song. Rarely see stone so into it. he was on fire the entire song.E.H. Ruddock wrote:Ha. I vaguely remember this oneWendy Carlos's Twin wrote:He also makes a mistake and then freaks the fuck out at the end of the West Palm Beach version of "Save You". One of the rare occasions where a mistake made for a better version.Kevin Davis wrote:There is a version of "Insignificance" from Nashville in 2003 where Stone is just having a field day with little flourishes like that. Those were the days.Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:There used to be details to songs on the 2000 tour that kind of became "lost" through time...little "licks" that Stone used to play that are now replaced by standard chords. I don't think he gives a fuck.digster wrote:Agreed. I love Mike's work with the band, but for the most part his solos don't do a ton for me with some big exceptions (All or None, NAIS, Immortality). His solos in stuff like Go and Comatose are fine, but it's almost like they're just another instrument propelling the song further into fervency, rather than a piece in their own right. Stone has this Neil Young meets Steve Cropper thing that I think is pretty cool.Birds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
Stone, along with Jeff and Matt, strikes me as being pretty consistent live. The only thing he does that doesn't make sense to me is sometimes he'll just fart out an ending to a song rather than properly finish it. He does it a lot on the ending of In Hiding, where he plays the first measure or two and then seems to say "ah, fuck it" and bails out.
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A lot, I imagine. Your fingers can only go so fast. At least that's what I tell my wife.digster wrote:Agreed, though I've seen that from each member. I wonder how many things are getting sacrificed for speed.
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so much thisBirds in Hell wrote:Stone is easily the best and most interesting guitar player in the band for my tastes.
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Stone fuckin rules.
He is amazing live.
He is amazing live.
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Stone's the one guy in the band I could see myself hanging out with.
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Stone hasn't done much on record for the past few :\
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well, Stone did a lot on BS and LB. Lots of very interesting little guitar parts on LB.
But it's true that his songwriting contributions on those two are little..
But it's true that his songwriting contributions on those two are little..
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Yea, i do love the flourishes he brought to LB, really helped many of the songs including Sirens and Swallowed Whole.joostone wrote:well, Stone did a lot on BS and LB. Lots of very interesting little guitar parts on LB.
But it's true that his songwriting contributions on those two are little..
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He is really good on Sirens.
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All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.
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I dont feel he is been reduced to that at all.evenslow wrote:All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.
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The only songs he really wrote on Backspacer: Amongst the Waves, SupersonicVinylGuy wrote:I dont feel he is been reduced to that at all.evenslow wrote:All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.
The only songs he really wrote on Lightning Bolt: Let the Records Play and a co-write on Infallible/Pendulum.
Maybe it's his fault for not using some of the Moonlander compositions with PJ. Or maybe it's the band's fault for not immediately responding to those demos. Whatever, we need more Stone.
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giving more control to the guy who wrote ltrp can only have a negative effect
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He also has a credit in The Fixer and Johnny Guitar, Infallible and Pendulum, and he is actually doing very interesting things in both albums...he is one of the defenders of Backspacer....i see him very pleased with whats happening with the band these days. More than in the Vitalogy or No Code era.evenslow wrote:The only songs he really wrote on Backspacer: Amongst the Waves, SupersonicVinylGuy wrote:I dont feel he is been reduced to that at all.evenslow wrote:All of that is true but when one-time band leader and all-around awesome player Stone Gossard has been reduced to something of a session player that accents the music, you've taken a wrong turn somewhere.
The only songs he really wrote on Lightning Bolt: Let the Records Play and a co-write on Infallible/Pendulum.
Maybe it's his fault for not using some of the Moonlander compositions with PJ. Or maybe it's the band's fault for not immediately responding to those demos. Whatever, we need more Stone.
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It's really baffling to me that that's a Stone song.LoathedVermin72 wrote:giving more control to the guy who wrote ltrp can only have a negative effect
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Whatever Stone was drinking circa Yield, I'm happy to buy him again.
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