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Re: First Single from #10: Mind Your Manners

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McParadigm wrote:
harmless wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:
harmless wrote:
mastaflatch wrote:most of the so-called Beatles sound-alike think that a quirky melody over a warm, mid-tempo arrangement automatically invokes the Beatles but that's only a stereotype based on a handful of their late-era songs.
A handful, huh? I didn't realise it was that many. But it all helps the thesis. :thumbsup:
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McParadigm wrote:The idea that it sounds vaguely Beatlesque (or, as masta so succinctly put it, a romanticized version thereof) is pretty accurate. Not in terms of anything in particular the song is doing, mind you...very little of the instrumentation or melodic quality is directly connectable to Beatles efforts....but the low-fi result of the shitty production actually seems to help it have the "feel" of a White Album outtake. I'd draw a line from Beatles to Parachutes long before I would draw it towards 90% of Oasis's work (a comparison I never really got).

Where harmless lost his initial round was...
but it's a total Beatles ripoff
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track11 wrote:Isn't "All Those Yesterdays" another one that people frequently describe as "sounding like the Beatles"?

Personally, I never understood why folks think "Off He Goes" sounds like Neil Young.

I also think that about ATY. Smile is the no code song that makes me think of Neil Young
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What so reminds me of the 60s pop of the Beatles (and to a lesser extent, the Kinks) is the straightness of the rhythm. There are absolutely no pushes or accents on the drums, or the finger-picking, or anything. It's 1234, 1234, 1234, 1234, and that's what, for me, gives it that slightly boring and bland Beatles quality. But hey, what I call boring and bland, others might call pure and simple. Compare that boom, cha, boom, cha simplicity with something like Jimi Hendrix and hopefully I'm getting closer to explaining why this sound doesn't interest me as much as something more angular and complex. It's also why I can't stand Jack Johnson. I guess I like my music like I like my women: with surprising angles, meat on the bone.
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stip wrote:
track11 wrote:Isn't "All Those Yesterdays" another one that people frequently describe as "sounding like the Beatles"?

Personally, I never understood why folks think "Off He Goes" sounds like Neil Young.

I also think that about ATY. Smile is the no code song that makes me think of Neil Young
I think ATY is slightly Beatles-esque, but mostly for that sound near the end that I'm still convinced is a trombone. The use of brass in pop rock music is very Beatles. It ceases to be Beatles-esque when Matt opens the hi-hat and it gets a little heavy for the 'There's still time...' section.
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harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
track11 wrote:Isn't "All Those Yesterdays" another one that people frequently describe as "sounding like the Beatles"?

Personally, I never understood why folks think "Off He Goes" sounds like Neil Young.

I also think that about ATY. Smile is the no code song that makes me think of Neil Young
I think ATY is slightly Beatles-esque, but mostly for that sound near the end that I'm still convinced is a trombone. The use of brass in pop rock music is very Beatles. It ceases to be Beatles-esque when Matt opens the hi-hat and it gets a little heavy for the 'There's still time...' section.

yeah, that moment in particular.
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harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
track11 wrote:Isn't "All Those Yesterdays" another one that people frequently describe as "sounding like the Beatles"?

Personally, I never understood why folks think "Off He Goes" sounds like Neil Young.

I also think that about ATY. Smile is the no code song that makes me think of Neil Young
I think ATY is slightly Beatles-esque, but mostly for that sound near the end that I'm still convinced is a trombone. The use of brass in pop rock music is very Beatles. It ceases to be Beatles-esque when Matt opens the hi-hat and it gets a little heavy for the 'There's still time...' section.
thank god for Matt Irons!
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mastaflatch wrote:
harmless wrote:
stip wrote:
track11 wrote:Isn't "All Those Yesterdays" another one that people frequently describe as "sounding like the Beatles"?

Personally, I never understood why folks think "Off He Goes" sounds like Neil Young.

I also think that about ATY. Smile is the no code song that makes me think of Neil Young
I think ATY is slightly Beatles-esque, but mostly for that sound near the end that I'm still convinced is a trombone. The use of brass in pop rock music is very Beatles. It ceases to be Beatles-esque when Matt opens the hi-hat and it gets a little heavy for the 'There's still time...' section.
thank god for Matt Irons!
Shit, Jack.
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I really like the Beatles, but this thread is making me not like them. Can we please get back to speculating about MYM?
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I really like the Beatles, but this thread is making me not like them. Can we please get back to speculating about MYM?
If MindYourManners were a person, would he (or she) like the Beatles? What about after reading this thread?
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I like The Beatles.
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Mind Your Manners wrote:I like The Beatles.
Are you cracking?
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Shut the fuck up, cunt.
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Confirmed: "Mind Your Manners" is short and aggressive.
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Mind Your Manners wrote:Shut the fuck up, cunt.
Are you related to Spin The Black Circle?
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Mind Your Manners wrote:Shut the fuck up, cunt.
Why are you so angry? Is it because of your billy billy microp_nis?
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Mind Your Manners wrote:Shut the fuck up, cunt.
Why are you so angry? Is it because of your billy billy microp_nis?
He's a return to form.
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Lament wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Mind Your Manners wrote:Shut the fuck up, cunt.
Why are you so angry? Is it because of your billy billy microp_nis?
He's a return to form.
He certainly doesn't lack agency.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
Lament wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
Mind Your Manners wrote:Shut the fuck up, cunt.
Why are you so angry? Is it because of your billy billy microp_nis?
He's a return to form.
He certainly doesn't lack agency.
I for one think his attitude could use a little fixin'.
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