HBO: Vinyl (2016)

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[epilogue]

Well now Skitch, let's take stock. Olivia Wilde is fantastic in the show. I love John Cameron Mitchell as Andy Warhol. I love the musical cutaways, the performances that are out of time and abstract. Doogie Howser's friend is funny, especially when he's high.

So, yeah, there are some things that are good, a couple levels that work. I'll keep watching.

I dont love any of that. The ONLY thing i love is Ato Essandoh. The whole should be his.

Yeah his stuff is great.

He was my favorite part of the pilot. Is his story being treated as a focus, or a side-plot?

side plot tied to the main story

Boo, hiss.

I'm still only on the second episode. And I do wish he was a bigger part of it already. But it makes sense since it's really Bobby Cannavale's story.

Also, is it just me, or is Ray Romano, like, surprisingly good in this?

[Mecca]

i've finally come around to this

[spike]

a big problem with this show is that richie finestra is the least interesting part of it

[Mecca]

a big problem with this show is that richie finestra is the least interesting part of it

Sober Richie on top of his game and making shit happen is ultimately more interesting than spiraling out of control.

[spike]

a big problem with this show is that richie finestra is the least interesting part of it

Sober Richie on top of his game and making shit happen is ultimately more interesting than spiraling out of control.

indeed, but even sober richie is a boring cliche of a character. while he's busy trying to stay clean, his underlings are doing cool stuff like discovering punk and disco. that's what the show should be.

[@SkitchP]

a big problem with this show is that richie finestra is the least interesting part of it

Sober Richie on top of his game and making shit happen is ultimately more interesting than spiraling out of control.

indeed, but even sober richie is a boring cliche of a character. while he's busy trying to stay clean, his underlings are doing cool stuff like discovering punk and disco. that's what the show should be.

I also think the show would benefit greatly from not trying so hard to take place in the real world. Having them open for the New York Dolls, fine. David Bowie and Robert Plant impersonators? Name dropping Freddy Mercury? It gets to feel very forced. Especially since they don't even get the rights to so many of the songs/bands they reference.

[spike]

a big problem with this show is that richie finestra is the least interesting part of it

Sober Richie on top of his game and making shit happen is ultimately more interesting than spiraling out of control.

indeed, but even sober richie is a boring cliche of a character. while he's busy trying to stay clean, his underlings are doing cool stuff like discovering punk and disco. that's what the show should be.

I also think the show would benefit greatly from not trying so hard to take place in the real world. Having them open for the New York Dolls, fine. David Bowie and Robert Plant impersonators? Name dropping Freddy Mercury? It gets to feel very forced. Especially since they don't even get the rights to so many of the songs/bands they reference.

you're not wrong, but i like that they're bold enough to have actual rock stars in the show rather than just characters loosely based on actual rock stars. it's refreshing in a way.

[spike]

maybe not have them every episode though.

[Mecca]

we didn't get any closure on Dev

[spike]

i guess terence winter's been fired from the show, so maybe it'll have a bit of a makeover.

[Jorge]

Canceled.

[spike]

makes sense.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[@SkitchP]

Thank god. It was so terrible.

[spike]

Thank god. It was so terrible.

Haha, I feel relief too. The last part of the season had gotten just interesting enough that I probably would've forced myself to watch season 2. True Detective all over again.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[Mecca]

makes sense.

this was my exact response to someone telling me the news

[Strat]

So i shouldnt watch this?

[spike]

So i shouldnt watch this?

absolutely not.