A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books)

[Mecca]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

the Internet ruins everything and everyone reads theories and repeats them as if it was their original idea

[epilogue]

- Tommen's suicide
- Sansa's seduction to the darkside
- Arya & Walder
- Banishing Melisandra
- Varys in Dorne
- Margaery's death


All of these were a surprise. Either major or minor, surprises.

And even the stuff I saw coming was so well executed that it doesn't even matter. This was fucking BRILLIANT.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[spike]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

on paper, dany wins. but cersei is fucking full psycho now with no children and the throne under her fine ass, so don't count her out just yet.

[Norah]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

on paper, dany wins. but cersei is fucking full psycho now with no children and the throne under her fine ass, so don't count her out just yet.

They're setting up the Valonquar prophecy fulfillment with Tyrion on his way west.

[Mecca]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

on paper, dany wins. but cersei is fucking full psycho now with no children and the throne under her fine ass, so don't count her out just yet.

They're setting up the Valonquar prophecy fulfillment with Tyrion on his way west.

or Jaime

[Norah]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

on paper, dany wins. but cersei is fucking full psycho now with no children and the throne under her fine ass, so don't count her out just yet.

They're setting up the Valonquar prophecy fulfillment with Tyrion on his way west.

or Jaime

I bet it's Jaime in the books and Tyrion in the show.

[spike]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

on paper, dany wins. but cersei is fucking full psycho now with no children and the throne under her fine ass, so don't count her out just yet.

They're setting up the Valonquar prophecy fulfillment with Tyrion on his way west.

or Jaime

I bet it's Jaime in the books and Tyrion in the show.

it should be jaime in both

[Simple Torture]

chud I think you may have gotten your wish to see Jaime turn away from Cersei; it just happened later.

Although I'm sure there will be some surprising twists and turns, some nice character development, some stunning set-pieces, and some fine acting, I wonder if the show is going to run into an inevitability problem when next season begins. At this point, it looks like Dany basically wins: she's got the dragons, the ships, and two of the largest houses in Westeros behind her. Probably the best thing they could do to add dramatic tension is to kill a dragon: if Dany's fleet bumps into Euron's fleet and wins but, let's say, the green-ish dragon dies, it casts some doubt on her invincibility (similar to what the dragon horn will probably bring up in the books).

Just some scattered thoughts; it's a lot to process. But I think it's telling that most people were able to guess what would happen this episode, unlike most finales.

the Internet ruins everything and everyone reads theories and repeats them as if it was their original idea

What's a "theory"?

[epilogue]

...
Thus wad fucking BRILLIANT.

High praise indeed.

I stand by it.

Spoiler: show

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[Monkey_Driven]

Looks like the Jaimie vs. Cersei storyling is going to be a big part of season 7.

[Mecca]

Why was Howland Reed notably absent from declaring Jon the King in Da Norf!?

[Norah]

He's probably pissed off because the last time he sent his kids to declare for the Starks they never came home.

[Norah]

I bet when Jon is declared King in the books it'll be because Howland shows up with Robb's will.

[Simple Torture]

I bet when Jon is declared King in the books it'll be because Howland shows up with Robb's will.

I actually came here to post this after a YouTube video I saw today mentioned the Grand Northern Conspiracy. When Jon started rolling around and so many houses said "no"--and after the Umbers betrayed Rickon--I knew it wasn't going to happen in the show. However, it may be the case that the two texts end up at the same endpoint (Jon as king) just by different paths.

Do we think Sam gets even a whiff of what the maesters are up to?

[Norah]

I bet when Jon is declared King in the books it'll be because Howland shows up with Robb's will.

I actually came here to post this after a YouTube video I saw today mentioned the Grand Northern Conspiracy. When Jon started rolling around and so many houses said "no"--and after the Umbers betrayed Rickon--I knew it wasn't going to happen in the show. However, it may be the case that the two texts end up at the same endpoint (Jon as king) just by different paths.

Do we think Sam gets even a whiff of what the maesters are up to?

Yeah that's exactly what I'm thinking regarding the GNC.

the Citadel will ultimately disappoint me because it won't have my homeboy Marwyn

[BurtReynolds]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

[Norah]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

[BurtReynolds]

Oh right

[Norah]

And Aegon's a Blackfyre so that really only leaves Dany.