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Coach wrote:Above all else, I'm most impressed by the execution of the last two episodes. This is what excellent TV should look and feel like. Perfect 10.
I feel like the extra running time helped, especially in the last episode where scenes could build naturally to a definitive moment.
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HAs anyone mentioned the music yet? Fantastic. Without it, it probably would have felt like a disjointed mess, but it all flowed together nicely.
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Coach wrote:Above all else, I'm most impressed by the execution of the last two episodes. This is what excellent TV should look and feel like. Perfect 10.
Agreed.
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BurtReynolds wrote:HAs anyone mentioned the music yet? Fantastic. Without it, it probably would have felt like a disjointed mess, but it all flowed together nicely.
That piano playing over cersei's plot...
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BurtReynolds wrote:HAs anyone mentioned the music yet? Fantastic. Without it, it probably would have felt like a disjointed mess, but it all flowed together nicely.
i've played this 3-4 times today.

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I just watched the King in the North scene again, fucking incredible.
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gonna be awkward when Bran turns up
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Bran is a bird now. Or a tree or something. I have no idea.
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he's still the rightful lord of winterfell
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birds can't be lords, chud, that's just silly. Or trees or whatever. I don't know.
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Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.
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Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.
Why wouldn't the King in the North follow normal rules of succession? The North follows the same inheritance rules as the rest of the realm.

I agree with you on Bran though, about not wanting the title at this point (be it Lord of Winterfell or King in the North, which I doubt you can really divorce at this point). And even if he did take it, I don't see him ever having an heir so after his death it would pass to one of his siblings and their children. Sansa if they go female, Jon if he legitimizes him.

But,
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all that's moot because Robb named Jon his heir already.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:he's still the rightful lord of winterfell
Fine, Jon is the rightful heir to the Iron Throne.
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numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:he's still the rightful lord of winterfell
Fine, Jon is the rightful heir to the Iron Throne.
No he isn't.

Jon is a bastard. He isn't the rightful heir to anything.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.
Why wouldn't the King in the North follow normal rules of succession? The North follows the same inheritance rules as the rest of the realm.

I agree with you on Bran though, about not wanting the title at this point (be it Lord of Winterfell or King in the North, which I doubt you can really divorce at this point). And even if he did take it, I don't see him ever having an heir so after his death it would pass to one of his siblings and their children. Sansa if they go female, Jon if he legitimizes him.

But,
Spoiler: show
all that's moot because Robb named Jon his heir already.
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I was going to say, didnt Robb actually decree him a stark and his heir a few seasons back? I cant believe i remembered that.
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Except
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King in the North because of Robb's will.
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Strat wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:Bran would definitely give up his title of Lord of Winterfell at this point. But I don't think there's really any "succession" when it comes to King in the North (a few book theories notwithstanding); it's more about might and honor makes right.
Why wouldn't the King in the North follow normal rules of succession? The North follows the same inheritance rules as the rest of the realm.

I agree with you on Bran though, about not wanting the title at this point (be it Lord of Winterfell or King in the North, which I doubt you can really divorce at this point). And even if he did take it, I don't see him ever having an heir so after his death it would pass to one of his siblings and their children. Sansa if they go female, Jon if he legitimizes him.

But,
Spoiler: show
all that's moot because Robb named Jon his heir already.
Spoiler: show
I was going to say, didnt Robb actually decree him a stark and his heir a few seasons back? I cant believe i remembered that.
I spoilered it because I couldn't remember if it happened in the show or not.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
numbers wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:he's still the rightful lord of winterfell
Fine, Jon is the rightful heir to the Iron Throne.
No he isn't.

Jon is a bastard. He isn't the rightful heir to anything.
You're the bastard, bastard.
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You make some good points, chud, but obviously rules of succession have become a bit more lax recently in the realm (i.e., kin-slaying in Dorne, Cersei certainly jumping some Baratheon cousins for the throne, and whatever the Reach decides to do); when Dany lands, this stuff will become even more complicated. However, the North just seems to have a deeper connection to tradition and the rule of law than everywhere else, so they've got that going for them.
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