A Song Of Ice and Fire (Spoilers for all Published Books)

[Zantac Junkie]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

[Norah]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

I could see Rhaegar leaving kingsguard behind for his side piece because he married for duty, not love. His side piece was the one he loved most.

But you're right, he absolutely could be legitimate. I just don't think he is and there's no hard evidence to suggest it outside the presence of the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy.

[Zantac Junkie]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

I could see Rhaegar leaving kingsguard behind for his side piece because he married for duty, not love. His side piece was the one he loved most.

But you're right, he absolutely could be legitimate. I just don't think he is and there's no hard evidence to suggest it outside the presence of the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy.

It's all speculation, but it seems plausible. Also, would the Kingsguard accept orders outside of their usual duties from Rhaegar? He wasn't the king.

[Norah]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

I could see Rhaegar leaving kingsguard behind for his side piece because he married for duty, not love. His side piece was the one he loved most.

But you're right, he absolutely could be legitimate. I just don't think he is and there's no hard evidence to suggest it outside the presence of the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy.

It's all speculation, but it seems plausible. Also, would the Kingsguard accept orders outside of their usual duties from Rhaegar? He wasn't the king.

In this case they might. Rhaegar was already planning to force an abdication by calling a great council, that's why he gathered the Lords at the Tourney of Harrenhal. If many in the realm were ready for Rhaegar to be king, it wouldn't surprise me if some in the Kingsguard were already treating him that way.

[Zantac Junkie]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

I could see Rhaegar leaving kingsguard behind for his side piece because he married for duty, not love. His side piece was the one he loved most.

But you're right, he absolutely could be legitimate. I just don't think he is and there's no hard evidence to suggest it outside the presence of the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy.

It's all speculation, but it seems plausible. Also, would the Kingsguard accept orders outside of their usual duties from Rhaegar? He wasn't the king.

In this case they might. Rhaegar was already planning to force an abdication by calling a great council, that's why he gathered the Lords at the Tourney of Harrenhal. If many in the realm were ready for Rhaegar to be king, it wouldn't surprise me if some in the Kingsguard were already treating him that way.

I forgot about his clandestine organization of the tourney. So, assuming that he didn't marry Lyanna and Jon isn't legitimate, I suppose that makes Jon a Blackfyre? Or did Targaryen bastards stop calling themselves that after the rebellion?

[Norah]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

I could see Rhaegar leaving kingsguard behind for his side piece because he married for duty, not love. His side piece was the one he loved most.

But you're right, he absolutely could be legitimate. I just don't think he is and there's no hard evidence to suggest it outside the presence of the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy.

It's all speculation, but it seems plausible. Also, would the Kingsguard accept orders outside of their usual duties from Rhaegar? He wasn't the king.

In this case they might. Rhaegar was already planning to force an abdication by calling a great council, that's why he gathered the Lords at the Tourney of Harrenhal. If many in the realm were ready for Rhaegar to be king, it wouldn't surprise me if some in the Kingsguard were already treating him that way.

I forgot about his clandestine organization of the tourney. So, assuming that he didn't marry Lyanna and Jon isn't legitimate, I suppose that makes Jon a Blackfyre? Or did Targaryen bastards stop calling themselves that after the rebellion?

I think you have to be exiled to be a Blackfyre. Bloodraven was a bastard to but he didn't adopt the Blackfyre name or cause.

[Zantac Junkie]

What would Dany think about no longer being the heir to the throne?

You mean because Jon is Rhaegar's son?

It shouldn't matter because he's still not trueborn.

He could be. The Targaryen's have a historical precedent for plural marriage, and the presence of the Kingsguard suggests the possibly that a member of the royal family remained behind. It seems odd that they would remain behind to protect Rhaegars side-piece, when they could have been of assistance on the trident.

I could see Rhaegar leaving kingsguard behind for his side piece because he married for duty, not love. His side piece was the one he loved most.

But you're right, he absolutely could be legitimate. I just don't think he is and there's no hard evidence to suggest it outside the presence of the Kingsguard at the Tower of Joy.

It's all speculation, but it seems plausible. Also, would the Kingsguard accept orders outside of their usual duties from Rhaegar? He wasn't the king.

In this case they might. Rhaegar was already planning to force an abdication by calling a great council, that's why he gathered the Lords at the Tourney of Harrenhal. If many in the realm were ready for Rhaegar to be king, it wouldn't surprise me if some in the Kingsguard were already treating him that way.

I forgot about his clandestine organization of the tourney. So, assuming that he didn't marry Lyanna and Jon isn't legitimate, I suppose that makes Jon a Blackfyre? Or did Targaryen bastards stop calling themselves that after the rebellion?

I think you have to be exiled to be a Blackfyre. Bloodraven was a bastard to but he didn't adopt the Blackfyre name or cause.

Actually, come to think of it, I think you're right. Daemon I took the house name
Blackfyre after he was given the Targaryen ancestral sword. The rest of the great bastards seem to have taken the bastard names of wherever their mothers hailed from, regardless of which side of the rebellion they landed on.

[BurtReynolds]

but where do birds and trees fall in the line of succession?

[spike]

And Aegon's a Blackfyre so that really only leaves Dany.

dany will probably die in the battle against the white walkers though

[Norah]

And Aegon's a Blackfyre so that really only leaves Dany.

dany will probably die in the battle against the white walkers though

I hope so, she's slowly turning into her father.

[BurtReynolds]

I haven't read all the books yet, but do the white walkers have some way of dealing with dragons?

[Norah]

Yeah, Euron.

[epilogue]

Yeah, Euron.

Wait, what?

Oh. Never mind. I gotcha.

[Mecca]

Yeah Joey, her hair is supposed to burn off

[epilogue]

Yeah Joey, her hair is supposed to burn off

Doesn't her skin get burned too? I can't remember. It's been years now.

[Mecca]

Yeah Joey, her hair is supposed to burn off

Doesn't her skin get burned too? I can't remember. It's been years now.

Like, singed. But it was by dragon fire, which can melt stone

[Mecca]

She also got diarrhea and her period came back

[epilogue]

Just when you thought YOU were having a shitty day.

[spike]

so now everyone's on board with the jaime will eventually kill cersei theory, huh?

[ABNorman]

Just when you thought YOU were having a shitty day.