Election 2016
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No, it wasn't fun! Actual fun trivia: Sloths often grab their own arm thinking it's a branch and they fall to their death. Haha!
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You monster.theplatypus wrote:No, it wasn't fun! Actual fun trivia: Sloths often grab their own arm thinking it's a branch and they fall to their death. Haha!
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ha ha! ha ha! those dorks. they sound like argotheplatypus wrote:No, it wasn't fun! Actual fun trivia: Sloths often grab their own arm thinking it's a branch and they fall to their death. Haha!
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You monsterknee tunes wrote:ha ha! ha ha! those dorks. they sound like argotheplatypus wrote:No, it wasn't fun! Actual fun trivia: Sloths often grab their own arm thinking it's a branch and they fall to their death. Haha!
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The big thing that I think that article misses is the core reason why high immigration to the US happened late last century: there was work that needed to be done and people that needed work. The ironic thing about Trump harping about this is that since the Great Recession immigration from Mexico has actually been falling. I'm hoping it won't be much longer when this is an exploitable issue on the campaign trail.theplatypus wrote:I was excited to read something that made me question my own views, especially since me and most of my family are immigrants, but IMO this article makes a really poor argument for why "Trump is right" about immigration; it's mostly concerned with making a bunch of obvious points about why "the US doesn't HAVE to do anything, the US doesn't HAVE to help anyone" with Constitutional and (frankly very flimsy) philosophical arguments. Then when it finally does start addressing specifics (like the study about ethnically diverse US neighborhoods), he offers skin-deep half-truths and doesn't pursue the more interesting line of questioning, like the relationship between ethnic diversity and poverty in US cities, and the causes of it. Also: I've seen this guy around Twitter. He's a Men's Rights Activist and one step short of a white supremacist. While that by itself doesn't invalidate any of the arguments in this article, it does cause me to chuckle at how hard he tries to separate himself from the "Alt Right".Birds in Hell wrote:Why Trump Is Right About Immigration
In his blunt and imprecise way, Trump has shifted the Overton window on immigration, borders, and national security. The fact that he did so insensitively and that his approach lacked nuance does not make his deeper observation and critique erroneous, however.
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Immigration from Mexico fell, but was there a net decrease in immigration from central/ south america? Specifying Mexico as the origin seems to be overly specific, possibly to mislead on overall trends. There may be a net decrease, but the uptick of central american unaccompanied minors seems fairly significant.Green Habit wrote:The big thing that I think that article misses is the core reason why high immigration to the US happened late last century: there was work that needed to be done and people that needed work. The ironic thing about Trump harping about this is that since the Great Recession immigration from Mexico has actually been falling. I'm hoping it won't be much longer when this is an exploitable issue on the campaign trail.theplatypus wrote:I was excited to read something that made me question my own views, especially since me and most of my family are immigrants, but IMO this article makes a really poor argument for why "Trump is right" about immigration; it's mostly concerned with making a bunch of obvious points about why "the US doesn't HAVE to do anything, the US doesn't HAVE to help anyone" with Constitutional and (frankly very flimsy) philosophical arguments. Then when it finally does start addressing specifics (like the study about ethnically diverse US neighborhoods), he offers skin-deep half-truths and doesn't pursue the more interesting line of questioning, like the relationship between ethnic diversity and poverty in US cities, and the causes of it. Also: I've seen this guy around Twitter. He's a Men's Rights Activist and one step short of a white supremacist. While that by itself doesn't invalidate any of the arguments in this article, it does cause me to chuckle at how hard he tries to separate himself from the "Alt Right".Birds in Hell wrote:Why Trump Is Right About Immigration
In his blunt and imprecise way, Trump has shifted the Overton window on immigration, borders, and national security. The fact that he did so insensitively and that his approach lacked nuance does not make his deeper observation and critique erroneous, however.
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Aren't you a free market guy?simple schoolboy wrote:Immigration from Mexico fell, but was there a net decrease in immigration from central/ south america? Specifying Mexico as the origin seems to be overly specific, possibly to mislead on overall trends. There may be a net decrease, but the uptick of central american unaccompanied minors seems fairly significant.Green Habit wrote:The big thing that I think that article misses is the core reason why high immigration to the US happened late last century: there was work that needed to be done and people that needed work. The ironic thing about Trump harping about this is that since the Great Recession immigration from Mexico has actually been falling. I'm hoping it won't be much longer when this is an exploitable issue on the campaign trail.theplatypus wrote:I was excited to read something that made me question my own views, especially since me and most of my family are immigrants, but IMO this article makes a really poor argument for why "Trump is right" about immigration; it's mostly concerned with making a bunch of obvious points about why "the US doesn't HAVE to do anything, the US doesn't HAVE to help anyone" with Constitutional and (frankly very flimsy) philosophical arguments. Then when it finally does start addressing specifics (like the study about ethnically diverse US neighborhoods), he offers skin-deep half-truths and doesn't pursue the more interesting line of questioning, like the relationship between ethnic diversity and poverty in US cities, and the causes of it. Also: I've seen this guy around Twitter. He's a Men's Rights Activist and one step short of a white supremacist. While that by itself doesn't invalidate any of the arguments in this article, it does cause me to chuckle at how hard he tries to separate himself from the "Alt Right".Birds in Hell wrote:Why Trump Is Right About Immigration
In his blunt and imprecise way, Trump has shifted the Overton window on immigration, borders, and national security. The fact that he did so insensitively and that his approach lacked nuance does not make his deeper observation and critique erroneous, however.
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Alright, I'm feeling good. Nate Silver is currently giving Hillary a 78% chance of winning this.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... -forecast/
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/201 ... -forecast/
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That doesn't exactly make me feel "good."
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I'd quite like if you guys could vote in Trump so that WrestleMania tickets would be cheap when they release in November.
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Yeah, I mean, especially since her chances have dropped from 80% to 78% in like 3 days, and it's at 76% in the nowcast, and 72% in the polls-plus model. If you read the commentaries published on the site, they constantly remind readers that they're taking big guesses about how polls will move between now and November. If the economy slows or tanks or Clinton gets indicted (not likely), it's only a 20-point swing for it to be 50/50.LoathedVermin72 wrote:That doesn't exactly make me feel "good."
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Sure, she dropped some in the last couple days, but that was after climbing from a 65% chance in June. There are surely a lot of "ifs," but it's hard to imagine sitting in a better spot than 78% chance of winning in July.
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Re: Election 2016
Worst election ever.
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As usual, only 4-5 states will actually matter anyways. I'd feel much more comfortable if Clinton's lead in Ohio was bigger; Arizona might also be a state to watch.
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Yeah, and even if she wins, we'll have Hillary Clinton as our president. How exciting.Simple Torture wrote:Yeah, I mean, especially since her chances have dropped from 80% to 78% in like 3 days, and it's at 76% in the nowcast, and 72% in the polls-plus model. If you read the commentaries published on the site, they constantly remind readers that they're taking big guesses about how polls will move between now and November. If the economy slows or tanks or Clinton gets indicted (not likely), it's only a 20-point swing for it to be 50/50.LoathedVermin72 wrote:That doesn't exactly make me feel "good."
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Obama term III.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yeah, and even if she wins, we'll have Hillary Clinton as our president. How exciting.Simple Torture wrote:Yeah, I mean, especially since her chances have dropped from 80% to 78% in like 3 days, and it's at 76% in the nowcast, and 72% in the polls-plus model. If you read the commentaries published on the site, they constantly remind readers that they're taking big guesses about how polls will move between now and November. If the economy slows or tanks or Clinton gets indicted (not likely), it's only a 20-point swing for it to be 50/50.LoathedVermin72 wrote:That doesn't exactly make me feel "good."
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