Film: Star Trek Beyond (2016)

[dimejinky99]

SS has to make something like $800 million to break even. I don't understand that if it 'only' cost $175 million to make.

[BurtReynolds]

If I remember correctly, Studios make a lot less per ticket on international sales than US, so international vs domestic sales revenues aren't the same.

That and marketing budgets are usually as high if not higher than the production budget. Crazy, but that's how it goes.

[dimejinky99]

That makes sense I guess but SS is another great example of 10/10 marketing for a 3/10 film so what's going wrong?

'THR says the price tag for Suicide Squad was “at least $175 million” and that for the film to be a success, a studio veteran explains, “The movie’s got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they’ll consider it a win.” That’s a lofty goal, and while the movie is tracking for a huge opening weekend, it will need to have legs to hit that mark.'

[BurtReynolds]

Whatever the math, it doesn't seem like a very sustainable business model.

[stip]

On average a studio needs to double the cost of the movie in sales to break even. That's before marketing

[dimejinky99]

Again they should all look at what deadpool did. Made for peanuts, marketed brilliantly but made about ten times its budget.

Do more with less.

[wease]

Again they should all look at what deadpool did. Made for peanuts, marketed brilliantly but made about ten times its budget.

Do more with less.

And it was the absolute most faithful to the comics movie that's ever been made.

(Well, that and Sin City.)

[McParadigm]

No but it is worth noting, for sure. That's one out of many, many, many, many reasons why Hollywood hasn't cared much about international grosses. They've basically seen that as pure profit. Money on top of money

"What? China? Nah, we don't worry about it. That's just pure profit. Like, money on top of money. Nothing a business would worry about."

[epilogue]

No but it is worth noting, for sure. That's one out of many, many, many, many reasons why Hollywood hasn't cared much about international grosses. They've basically seen that as pure profit. Money on top of money

"What? China? Nah, we don't worry about it. That's just pure profit. Like, money on top of money. Nothing a business would worry about."

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[epilogue]

Oh! I can rank the Star Trek films I've seen:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. JJ Abrams, pt 1

[stip]

[epilogue]

I did not get the chance to see this yesterday.

[dimejinky99]

You'll enjoy it I think. Even if only cos it's totally unlike the previous two.

[epilogue]

I goddamn loved the first two, though.

But I do like the idea of the third one being different.

[dimejinky99]

I goddamn loved the first two, though.

But I do like the idea of the third one being different.

Oh don't get me wrong I loved/liked the first two as well. But this succeeds for me for doing something different. In that it feels like an episode. And one of the episodes that really were great. That's really why I like it and think it works.

[epilogue]

I goddamn loved the first two, though.

But I do like the idea of the third one being different.

Oh don't get me wrong I loved/liked the first two as well. But this succeeds for me for doing something different. In that it feels like an episode. And one of the episodes that really were great. That's really why I like it and think it works.

I need to fucking see this thing already.

[LoathedVermin72]

Oh! I can rank the Star Trek films I've seen:

1. Wrath of Khan
2. JJ Abrams, pt 1

This is such a good post

[dimejinky99]

Oh! I can rank the Star Trek films I've seen:

2. JJ Abrams, pt 1

Did you like this Star Wars movie more than his other Star Wars movie?