stip wrote:We were having this conversation in another thread, but SS needs to crack 750-800 million box office to break even, and will apparently not be released in China (where guardians made 100 million).
This was a rough year for blockbusters. Was anything post civil war an unqualified success?
stip wrote:We were having this conversation in another thread, but SS needs to crack 750-800 million box office to break even, and will apparently not be released in China (where guardians made 100 million).
This was a rough year for blockbusters. Was anything post civil war an unqualified success?
stip wrote:That's not what Ayer says, though it's too early for him to be honest about it
It's obvious from literally the first minute. It's cobbled together like a trailer. I've seen Ayer's other movies; he's a good craftsman. He knows what he's doing. He is not responsible for this mess. Deadshot has this out-of-nowhere monologue about losing hope and being a scapegoat that I guarantee was inserted during reshoots, because it pretty obviously sounds like Ayer talking about the reshoot process and losing creative control. God this was such a bummer to sit through.
stip wrote:That's not what Ayer says, though it's too early for him to be honest about it
It's obvious from literally the first minute. It's cobbled together like a trailer. I've seen Ayer's other movies; he's a good craftsman. He knows what he's doing. He is not responsible for this mess. Deadshot has this out-of-nowhere monologue about losing hope and being a scapegoat that I guarantee was inserted during reshoots, because it pretty obviously sounds like Ayer talking about the reshoot process and losing creative control. God this was such a bummer to sit through.
This is the monologue. And it doesn't really have anything to do with the plot of the movie.
"We almost pulled it off - despite what everybody thought. Worst part of it is they're going to blame us for the whole thing. They can't have people knowing the truth. We're the patsies. The cover up. Don't forget we're the bad guys. And for about two seconds...I actually had hope."
LoathedVermin72 wrote:This is the monologue. And it doesn't really have anything to do with the plot of the movie.
"We almost pulled it off - despite what everybody thought. Worst part of it is they're going to blame us for the whole thing. They can't have people knowing the truth. We're the patsies. The cover up. Don't forget we're the bad guys. And for about two seconds...I actually had hope."
this sounds like dialogue from True Detective S2
"The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don't have a f**king clue about how to build anything."
durdencommatyler wrote:I really wanted this to be great.
It will be if Ayer's cut is ever released.
Listening to the Collider crew break down THR story and give their own thoughts on this yesterday, I have to say, I've never wanted an "alternate" or "director's cut" of a film more than this one. And I haven't even seen the theatrical cut yet.
It will be a huge mistake if they don't release Ayer's cut.
durdencommatyler wrote:I mean, I'll still see it and decide for myself. But I'm nowhere near as excited as I deserve to be.
I really don't recommend bothering with the version out now. You're not seeing the real movie.
I was talking to my wife about this last night. And she kinda said the same thing. We were both exasperated by what's happened here. She was all like, "when are studios going to just learn that having that many people involved always makes things worse?"
And it super sucks because she hates sueprhero films but actually really wanted to see this one with me.
