"The Four Levels of MGTOW"
Level 0 - Situational Awareness: the member has "taken the red pill" and embraces the idea that gender equality is a lie and propaganda.
Level 1 - Rejection of Long-Term Relationships: the man rejects long-term relationships but will still partake in short-term relationships and sexual encounters.
Level 2 - Rejection of Short-Term Relationships: the member won't participate in hook-ups or any form of short-term or sexual relationships.
Level 3 - Economic Disengagement: a member at this stage refuses to earn more money than is necessary for sustaining life. He views the government as tyrannical and is trying to actively drain money from the bureaucrats.
Level 4 - Societal Disengagement: this is as far as a mainstream MGTOW can go. Here the man refuses to interact with society.
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I used to work with a woman who did this. She used to brag that she hadn't paid for her own food at a restaurant in like 6 years or something.theplatypus wrote:
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Level 1 seems like a prudent place to be. Especially if I can bypass any belief in Level 0. Sex positive is a good place. The grass is greener.
Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
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Celibacy, which they refer to as Men Going Monk, is another option discussed routinely on the forum especially among the devout going their own way. For the extremely religious, being MGTOW causes a little bit of a conundrum. You can't have sex out of marriage, but you have also vowed not to get married, so you're essentially up virgin's creek without a paddle. Going monk isn't just for the religious—some men have also talked themselves into celibacy because they can't have sex without love but can never love a woman.
"Myself, I hate getting associated with women in any form, be it relationships or sex, moreover i [sic] can't have sex with a girl that i don't love," wrote forum user rorick. "I'm kind of old school here, or may be that is how i was born. Therefore for me to have sex i need to love her, so to love a girl i should throw away all my logical thinking and turn myself into a mangina, which i never wanted to be, hence i stayed virgin."
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Level 1 is basically me ages 18-23, and also my dad post-divorcesurfndestroy wrote:Level 1 seems like a prudent place to be. Especially if I can bypass any belief in Level 0. Sex positive is a good place. The grass is greener.
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So this is why dev had to leave the board. Level four, societal disengagement, music include us.
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I am the king of 3-6 month relationships. All the fun,none of the headaches. I live in a big city, I should be good until I die. Besides, it helps keep me in shape, so it's also a healthy place for me.theplatypus wrote:Level 1 is basically me ages 18-23, and also my dad post-divorcesurfndestroy wrote:Level 1 seems like a prudent place to be. Especially if I can bypass any belief in Level 0. Sex positive is a good place. The grass is greener.
I believe in love. Not sure love believes in me.
Think I’m going to try being kind to everyone a chance.
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This seems like the beginning of some kind of massive troll
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Please tell me you really didn't just say thissurfndestroy wrote:I believe in love. Not sure love believes in me.
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The lies we tell ourselves.LoathedVermin72 wrote:Please tell me you really didn't just say thissurfndestroy wrote:I believe in love. Not sure love believes in me.
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1- Dev and SomaThe Argonaut wrote:So this is why dev had to leave the board. Level four, societal disengagement, music include us.
2- Music include us
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