He'd be better with practice, but yeah that was not a good booth appearance.durdencommatyler wrote:Peyton fucking Manning just misused the word "biased."
I thought he was supposed to be smart or something.
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The dirty ass Denver defense (DADD) didn't let you down tonight.Simple Torture wrote:Anybody else always have a twinge of regret when watching football, knowing that you're getting excited about this sport while the men playing it are slowly killing themselves with tiny traumatic brain injuries...knowing that in a few years many of them will be unemployed with few prospects, especially since they were exploited while "attending" college...knowing how rampant opioid abuse is among current and former players just to deal with the pain of getting around every day...and knowing that so many of these players won't even recognize their families in their twilight years?
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Was a little uncomfortable with the headshots Newton took last night. Some were unintentional, but that what they are supposedly removing, there will be fines, but that was a bad night.
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The roughing the passer/intentional grounding one was especially brutal.Electromatic wrote:Was a little uncomfortable with the headshots Newton took last night. Some were unintentional, but that what they are supposedly removing, there will be fines, but that was a bad night.
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I've never understood why personal fouls can be offset by garden variety fouls. They should instead enforce both of them. But I need to rewatch the game to see how many of those hits took place when Cam was a runner instead of a passer.Monkey_Driven wrote:The roughing the passer/intentional grounding one was especially brutal.Electromatic wrote:Was a little uncomfortable with the headshots Newton took last night. Some were unintentional, but that what they are supposedly removing, there will be fines, but that was a bad night.
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That was a tough one too because he was well outside of the tackle box when he threw it away. I agree though, a personal foul should never be offset by a regular penalty unless it is a scoring play or something like that.Green Habit wrote:I've never understood why personal fouls can be offset by garden variety fouls. They should instead enforce both of them. But I need to rewatch the game to see how many of those hits took place when Cam was a runner instead of a passer.Monkey_Driven wrote:The roughing the passer/intentional grounding one was especially brutal.Electromatic wrote:Was a little uncomfortable with the headshots Newton took last night. Some were unintentional, but that what they are supposedly removing, there will be fines, but that was a bad night.
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Here's a compilation:spike wrote:The dirty ass Denver defense (DADD) didn't let you down tonight.Simple Torture wrote:Anybody else always have a twinge of regret when watching football, knowing that you're getting excited about this sport while the men playing it are slowly killing themselves with tiny traumatic brain injuries...knowing that in a few years many of them will be unemployed with few prospects, especially since they were exploited while "attending" college...knowing how rampant opioid abuse is among current and former players just to deal with the pain of getting around every day...and knowing that so many of these players won't even recognize their families in their twilight years?
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That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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I believe it was, but that's the one that was offset by intentional grounding.Simple Torture wrote:That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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The Stewart one is obviously a foul.
The Marshall one is tough to see from that view, there's another angle out there where he's leading with his forearm but it's also not a complete view. I don't know if his intent was to go helmet to helmet but if he makes content anyway the intent doesn't matter.
The Miller one is one of those side to side helmet collisions that I don't think I've ever seen called. Maybe it should be, I don't know what the specific rules are on that. He did the same thing on his Super Bowl sack of Newton:

The Marshall one is tough to see from that view, there's another angle out there where he's leading with his forearm but it's also not a complete view. I don't know if his intent was to go helmet to helmet but if he makes content anyway the intent doesn't matter.
The Miller one is one of those side to side helmet collisions that I don't think I've ever seen called. Maybe it should be, I don't know what the specific rules are on that. He did the same thing on his Super Bowl sack of Newton:

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No, that was Stewart's.spike wrote:I believe it was, but that's the one that was offset by intentional grounding.Simple Torture wrote:That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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Oh cool, even shittier cuz he was outside the hash marks on both Stewart hits.Green Habit wrote:No, that was Stewart's.spike wrote:I believe it was, but that's the one that was offset by intentional grounding.Simple Torture wrote:That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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In those clips they're replaying the same Stewart hit. Don't know if he had another one. And yes, he was outside the tackle box, bad call.spike wrote:Oh cool, even shittier cuz he was outside the hash marks on both Stewart hits.Green Habit wrote:No, that was Stewart's.spike wrote:I believe it was, but that's the one that was offset by intentional grounding.Simple Torture wrote:That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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Way outside. Enjoy all the calls this year, champ.Green Habit wrote:In those clips they're replaying the same Stewart hit. Don't know if he had another one. And yes, he was outside the tackle box, bad call.spike wrote:Oh cool, even shittier cuz he was outside the hash marks on both Stewart hits.Green Habit wrote:No, that was Stewart's.spike wrote:I believe it was, but that's the one that was offset by intentional grounding.Simple Torture wrote:That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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I should be biased and cut him some slack.Green Habit wrote:He'd be better with practice, but yeah that was not a good booth appearance.durdencommatyler wrote:Peyton fucking Manning just misused the word "biased."
I thought he was supposed to be smart or something.
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It looked to me like Von was going in for anther strip and Ware kind of tossed Cam into him. It looks bad but I really don't think Von had any intention of going for his head.Green Habit wrote:The Stewart one is obviously a foul.
The Marshall one is tough to see from that view, there's another angle out there where he's leading with his forearm but it's also not a complete view. I don't know if his intent was to go helmet to helmet but if he makes content anyway the intent doesn't matter.
The Miller one is one of those side to side helmet collisions that I don't think I've ever seen called. Maybe it should be, I don't know what the specific rules are on that. He did the same thing on his Super Bowl sack of Newton:
I saw a view somewhere of the Marshall hit that showed contact. He definitely got him with the crown of his helmet. It looked pretty intentional.
And yes, Stewart will be getting a letter from the league.
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Wasn't his throw short of the line of scrimmage though? If that's the case, then it can still be grounding even if he's outside the tackle box. I thought that was part of the grounding rule, but maybe I'm wrong? Or you are saying that the hit made the ball fall short of the line, which should not result in grounding at that point?spike wrote:Way outside. Enjoy all the calls this year, champ.Green Habit wrote:In those clips they're replaying the same Stewart hit. Don't know if he had another one. And yes, he was outside the tackle box, bad call.spike wrote:Oh cool, even shittier cuz he was outside the hash marks on both Stewart hits.Green Habit wrote:No, that was Stewart's.spike wrote:I believe it was, but that's the one that was offset by intentional grounding.Simple Torture wrote:That hit by Marshall (#54) looks like the worst of the bunch. Was it flagged? I fell asleep during the second half.
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I just rewatched the play, and you're correct--I retract my earlier statement.Stardog Champion wrote:Wasn't his throw short of the line of scrimmage though? If that's the case, then it can still be grounding even if he's outside the tackle box. I thought that was part of the grounding rule, but maybe I'm wrong? Or you are saying that the hit made the ball fall short of the line, which should not result in grounding at that point?
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Looks like Blair Walsh is picking up where he left off last season
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