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Lament wrote:(To be fair, this is one of my least favorite U2 records, personally)
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evenslow wrote:fuck it. RANK PARTY!!
1. Achtung Baby
2. Joshua Tree
3. War
4. Zooropa
5. All That You Can't Leave Behind
6. Pop
7. Rattle & Hum
8. Unforgettable Fire
9. No Line on the Horizon
10. Boy
11. October
12. How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb

past #6 it gets really hard to do.
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Lament wrote:
evenslow wrote:fuck it. RANK PARTY!!
1. When I Look At The World
2. New York
3. Walk On
4. Beautiful Day
5. In A Little While
6. Kite
7. Elevation
8. Stuck In A Moment You Can't Get Out Of
9. Wild Honey
10. Peace On Earth
11. Grace

(To be fair, this is one of my least favorite U2 records, personally)
Yeah, looking at all those song names I realize I hate this album, save for "Kite" and "In a Little While". Mostly the latter.
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1. Zooropa
2. Pop
3. Achtung Baby
4. The Unforgettable Fire
5. Boy
6. The Joshua Tree
7. No Line On The Horizon
8. October
9. War
10. All That You Can't Leave Behind
11. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
12. Rattle & Hum

The most significant drops in my enthusiasm for each record come in between 5 & 6, and then then 8 & 9. I can listen to the top five at any time. The bottom three I have to be on a serious U2 bender to want to listen to (save a handful of songs)
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Lament wrote:1. Zooropa
2. Pop
3. Achtung Baby
4. The Unforgettable Fire
5. Boy
6. The Joshua Tree
7. No Line On The Horizon
8. October
9. War
10. All That You Can't Leave Behind
11. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
12. Rattle & Hum

The most significant drops in my enthusiasm for each record come in between 5 & 6, and then then 8 & 9. I can listen to the top five at any time. The bottom three I have to be on a serious U2 bender to want to listen to (save a handful of songs)

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Lament wrote:1. Zooropa
2. Pop
3. Achtung Baby
4. The Unforgettable Fire
5. Boy
6. The Joshua Tree
7. No Line On The Horizon
8. October
9. War
10. All That You Can't Leave Behind
11. How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
12. Rattle & Hum

The most significant drops in my enthusiasm for each record come in between 5 & 6, and then then 8 & 9. I can listen to the top five at any time. The bottom three I have to be on a serious U2 bender to want to listen to (save a handful of songs)
1. Achtung Baby
2. joshua tree
3. Unforgettable fire
4. pop
5. Zooropa
6. Atomic Bomb
7. Rattle and Hum
8. War
9. All you can't leave behind
10. no line on the horizon
11. October
12. boy
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1 and 2 are so good.
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dimejinky99 wrote:Poseur
Probably. From 1995-1999 though, U2 was my favorite band of all-time (with Pearl Jam #2). Since around 2002 they've slipped out of my top three.
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I'm kidding. I say that to anyone who ranks zooropa and pop in their top two.
Though I do like zooropa.
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i may go put some u2 back on my ipod
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I did today.

Can't remember Kite, to my own embarrassment.
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dimejinky99 wrote:I'm kidding. I say that to anyone who ranks zooropa and pop in their top two.
Though I do like zooropa.
Pop over Achtung Baby or Joshua Tree or Unforgettable Fire or War is redickiless. Zooropa was a big step down from Achtung Baby but still interesting if a little strained. I got a sense that U2 was running on artistic vapors at that point. And Pop was even more smoke and mirrors. I fell off the fan wagon after Pop.

Recall U2 emerging from the giant lemon on the PopMart tour. The entire set up was intentionally ironic but isn't there something not funny funny about releasing a crap album and doubling down with the lemon metaphor. What an awesome Spinal Tap entrance. And knowing U2, they probably wrestled with the absurdity of popping out of a giant lemon on a stadium tour and concluded: "we're U2. U2 is about going big and we're cool enough to merge epic with satire." If Bono admits the sunglasses are satire I'll appreciate the giant stage lemon that much more. At the time I cringed.
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stip wrote:i may go put some u2 back on my ipod
This actually inspired me to listen to them on my run today. Always nice to be reminded of what an incredible song "The Unforgettable Fire" is.

I'm actually starting a drive up to Chicago later, and I have a feeling I'll be playing a lot of U2 after reading people's rankings on here. Hopefully it'll keep my focus away from wondering whether or not the new Pearl Jam or Manics singles are leaking anywhere.
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Lament wrote:
stip wrote:i may go put some u2 back on my ipod
This actually inspired me to listen to them on my run today. Always nice to be reminded of what an incredible song "The Unforgettable Fire" is.

I'm actually starting a drive up to Chicago later, and I have a feeling I'll be playing a lot of U2 after reading people's rankings on here. Hopefully it'll keep my focus away from wondering whether or not the new Pearl Jam or Manics singles are leaking anywhere.
Yeah this made me want to dive back into Zooropa, which is saying something since I've been super super down on U2 for a few years now.
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Stay(faraway so close) is one of the best songs they ever wrote.
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dimejinky99 wrote:Stay(faraway so close) is one of the best songs they ever wrote.
Such a stellar song. When I hear it these days it reminds me a lot of what it felt like R.E.M. was going for on Up.
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1. Achtung Baby
2. Zooropa
3. Pop
4. The Joshua Tree
5. No Line on the Horizon
6. The Unforgettable Fire
7. Rattle and Hum
8. All That You Can't Leave Behind
9. How to Dismantle An Atomic Bomb
10. War
11. Boy
12. October
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is pjchat's legacy ruined by talking about U2?
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Kevin Davis wrote:1. Achtung Baby
2. Zooropa
3. Pop
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks the 90's were their strongest decade.


To bring Pearl Jam back into this discussion, I loved Ed's mini-cover of A Sort of Homecoming on the 2005 tour. I'd love to hear him tackle the whole song in that same style (loosely based on the Wide Awake In America version).
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Lament wrote:
stip wrote:i may go put some u2 back on my ipod
This actually inspired me to listen to them on my run today. Always nice to be reminded of what an incredible song "The Unforgettable Fire" is.

I'm actually starting a drive up to Chicago later, and I have a feeling I'll be playing a lot of U2 after reading people's rankings on here. Hopefully it'll keep my focus away from wondering whether or not the new Pearl Jam or Manics singles are leaking anywhere.
A sort of homecoming came on today. Such a great song, and so hard to sing
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I am opposed to the central idea of this thread. Pearl Jam have a legacy where it counts and U2 are a bunch of cheese balls. If PJ broken up a decade ago, face it, you'd kill for a some new c side to be unearthed. With Back spacer you get 10 plus. Avocado is actually a really cool album and if you feel differently, you have to admit its got 5-10 minutes of pure recorded Pearl Jam gold, like the intro to Severed Hand or the whole song for that matter, or the first part of Inside Job, or Army Reserve for the music, granted the vocals and lyrics are off. The secret noise track alone is pure emotion as one friend put it succinctly. Then their is Parachutes. One of my favourite songs since Pink Floyd's Paint Box.
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