Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I ask think he liked it a lot more than he was letting on.
If you watch his review from the day the film was released, that's quite obvious. He says, "I loved it," with a bit of a smirk, which seems to suggest he was into it despite its flaws (like many of us). He's in character for this video, so obviously the snark level is quite a bit higher.
the need to apologize for liking something despite its flaws (which is to say it, like everything is not perfect), is the internet's most irritating contribution to fandom
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stip wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I ask think he liked it a lot more than he was letting on.
If you watch his review from the day the film was released, that's quite obvious. He says, "I loved it," with a bit of a smirk, which seems to suggest he was into it despite its flaws (like many of us). He's in character for this video, so obviously the snark level is quite a bit higher.
the need to apologize for liking something despite its flaws (which is to say it, like everything is not perfect), is the internet's most irritating contribution to fandom

Well that and the 'nobody hates Star Wars more than Star Wars fans' factor. Which sadly is a real thing.
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See also: pearl jam

See also: everything
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Hahaha that is far from the internet's worst contribution to fandom
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name 7 worse things
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stip wrote:name 7 worse things

You're asking the man who hates everything. All too easy for him. Ask him what he likes. Much tougher and funnier list.
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I'll respectfully disagree that it's a problem at all. There are really no works of art that you enjoy which you also recognize have flaws--whether they're huge, gaping flaws or small, annoying ones? Looking at the totality of a piece and weighing the pros against the cons just sounds like criticism to me, which has been around for much longer than the internet.
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except too often, and on a scale dwarfing anyrhing weve previously seen, criticism has become an end in itself, divorced from attempts to understand or appreciate the art under scruitny.
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stip wrote:name 7 worse things
Oh, I don't know, how about fawning, braindead praise? Ironic detachment? Meaningless pedantics? Groupthink consensus? Nerd culture?
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:name 7 worse things
Oh, I don't know, how about fawning, braindead praise? Ironic detachment? Meaningless pedantics? Groupthink consensus? Nerd culture?
There was a time I probably would have gone to greater lengths to engage with you on this kind of post, and... not fight you on it... but try to debate it. But I've been listening to so many podcasts lately that flat out prove what you're talking about that I can't do it. I just have to agree with you.

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:name 7 worse things
Oh, I don't know, how about fawning, braindead praise? Ironic detachment? Meaningless pedantics? Groupthink consensus? Nerd culture?
That's only 5 things.
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ABNorman wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:name 7 worse things
Oh, I don't know, how about fawning, braindead praise? Ironic detachment? Meaningless pedantics? Groupthink consensus? Nerd culture?
That's only 5 things.
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ABNorman wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:name 7 worse things
Oh, I don't know, how about fawning, braindead praise? Ironic detachment? Meaningless pedantics? Groupthink consensus? Nerd culture?
That's only 5 things.
Okay, also Chris Hardwick and IMDb reviews
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
ABNorman wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
stip wrote:name 7 worse things
Oh, I don't know, how about fawning, braindead praise? Ironic detachment? Meaningless pedantics? Groupthink consensus? Nerd culture?
That's only 5 things.
Okay, also Chris Hardwick and IMDb reviews
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IMDB reviews might be the worst of the bunch.
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stip wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I ask think he liked it a lot more than he was letting on.
If you watch his review from the day the film was released, that's quite obvious. He says, "I loved it," with a bit of a smirk, which seems to suggest he was into it despite its flaws (like many of us). He's in character for this video, so obviously the snark level is quite a bit higher.
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stip wrote:
stip wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:I ask think he liked it a lot more than he was letting on.
If you watch his review from the day the film was released, that's quite obvious. He says, "I loved it," with a bit of a smirk, which seems to suggest he was into it despite its flaws (like many of us). He's in character for this video, so obviously the snark level is quite a bit higher.
the need to apologize for liking something despite its flaws (which is to say it, like everything is not perfect), is the internet's eighth most irritating contribution to fandom
I will allow it.
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LV you should listen to that podcast Storywonk.
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I FINALLY found these on my podcatcher. Because no one could tell me how they were listed on said podcatcher. I guess this is why people care so much about branding. But anyway. I found it just now. And loaded it up. I'll start listening tonight. This is the Story and Star Wars series, I'm talking about.
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durdencommatyler wrote:I FINALLY found these on my podcatcher. Because no one could tell me how they were listed on said podcatcher. I guess this is why people care so much about branding. But anyway. I found it just now. And loaded it up. I'll start listening tonight. This is the Story and Star Wars series, I'm talking about.

I listened to the story wonk on force awakens first. His initial reaction. Then he has another later really getting into it. Is wonderful stuff
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