Election 2016

[Norah]

that was meant to follow Jorge's post

[Strat]

These stories about trump are important. He wants to be president, which will impact all of those other international stories about syria, russia, etc... Stories about trump are important.

[digster]

The Big Bad Media really isn't the one-headed mega monster that detractors seem to claim.

[Strat]

Full disclosure: I have no problem with the media being biased against trump. Everybody should be. He's a horrible human being and i can't fucking believe anybody could support him.


Is this election over yet?

[BurtReynolds]

These stories about trump are important. He wants to be president, which will impact all of those other international stories about syria, russia, etc... Stories about trump are important.

Again,not so important that it justifies complete domination of the headlines, front pages, top news stories, etc. to the degree it has. Do you really think 12 different groping stories should come before news on Syria or Iraq or Black Lives Matter, or any of dozens of other important things going on in the world that news media is supposed to cover? Because Trump might be president, everything he does supersedes everything else? madness.

[Strat]

They should just have a running live updated blog of everything terrible trump does throughout the day. I agree.

[BurtReynolds]

No I'm not. I'm not talking about emails. I'm talking about major democratic party changes in the heat of a presidential election, based on a failure to do their job. But I'm not even talking about the election. What about Syria? Russia? Any of the other dozens of things that are going on that are, yes, more important than twenty year old groping allegations? These aren't left/right election stories, but they are barely mentioned. This is deliberate, and has little to do with newsworthiness.

Pro tip: next time you're on the CNN website, click on the little Edition section on the top right corner of the page and switch from the US edition to the International edition. Way less clickbait-y Trump stuff.

That's a good tip.

[BurtReynolds]

They should just have a running live updated blog of everything terrible trump does throughout the day. I agree.

Yes, nothing else matters. Are you the head honcho of Huffpo?

[Strat]

A review of CNN and Fox News right now might indicate a different type of media bias from the right.

[Strat]

They should just have a running live updated blog of everything terrible trump does throughout the day. I agree.

Yes, nothing else matters. Are you the head honcho of Huffpo?

I was agreeing with you, idiot. I said put it all into one live blog.

[Bi_3]

The idea that a fair media will or should always inevitably devote equal or near equal time to both candidate's qualities or scandals is deeply fallacitic.

so much this

Of course. But the perception is that the bias has become so extreme it's to the point where the veracity of the reporting is being questioned. I don't question that many leaders in media feel a moral obligation to stop what they believe to be a type of fascism gaining power, but I worry they are trading a short term win (no Trump) for a long term loss (the hardening of 2/5 of the population against them).

the perception of bias has become so extreme because you have a candidate who ignores every single fact of life and kicks and screams falsities about reporting on him. His core supporters dont search out the news or care to look into anything deeper than "make america great again fuck muslims"

It is a bit of a chicken and egg scenario, sure, but that doesn't mean that the media isn't intentionally misleading people in order to take down Trump. Again, many people are probably more than OK with that given what's at stake, but it's a hard thing to ponder if you look past the election horizon. What other ideological goals might the media consider worth lying for? A war in Afghanistan Iraq Syria?

[digster]

I think your argument is with the public, more than some conspiracy on the part of the media. The national broadcast networks lean into the content that drives higher ratings, and Trump drives rating. People turn on the television when the Donald is on and turn it off when Syria pops up. I would love to see more in-depth coverage of some of these issues (which, coincidentally, would push everything unearthed about the Clintons from the WikiLeaks releases even further off the front page), but I also agree with chud that it's impossible to argue that the Republican nominee for president might be a habitual sexual assaulter is not a massive story.

[BurtReynolds]

I think your argument is with the public, more than some conspiracy on the part of the media. The national broadcast networks lean into the content that drives higher ratings, and Trump drives rating. People turn on the television when the Donald is on and turn it off when Syria pops up. I would love to see more in-depth coverage of some of these issues (which, coincidentally, would push everything unearthed about the Clintons from the WikiLeaks releases even further off the front page), but I also agree with chud that it's impossible to argue that the Republican nominee for president might be a habitual sexual assaulter is not a massive story

That's what it is. They're going to put the stories on the top that are most likely to generate clicks. It's the inherent problem with capitalist journalism.

That isn't all of it. Many of these networks also desperately want Trump to lose the election. To be clear, I desperately want Trump to lose the election. He most certainly should lose the election. But that doesn't change the fact that most news media outlets routinely act in a biased way against candidates they don't like. At least recognize it. Be aware of it, even if you agree with it.

[BurtReynolds]

stickman posts are the only news you should trust.

[McParadigm]

These Wikileaks emails really do make a solid case that the democrats have finally gotten their shit together.

[Strat]

Melania says the ol' donald was "Egged on by billy bush"

[Strat]

" heard many different stuff -- boys talk," she said. "The boys, the way they talk when they grow up and they want to sometimes show each other, 'Oh, this and that' and talking about the girls. But yes, I was surprised, of course."


Lol. He was 60 years old.

[Electromatic]

Melania says the ol' donald was "Egged on by billy bush"

FTFY

[Strat]

[Strat]

The inability to hold oneself accountable for anything is truly astonishing.