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dimejinky99 wrote:So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ :lol:
Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.
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Maybe if MC5 gets in, PJ will play Kick Out The Jams with them.
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How heavily is the fan vote weighted? Like 1%?
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I'm not a Dave A fan at all but this snub seems ridiculous. Krusen wasn't much more than a session drummer on that record in reality. I don't think he even played 20 shows with the band. Seems crazy to have Dave K and not Dave A. I think it'd be pretty reasonable to have all drummers aside from Chamberlain involved. Will be interesting to see how this unfolds...... :shock:
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Imagine just for a second that PJ sucked up their past issues and fully embraced a legacy tour. 4 drummers. 4 mini sets plus the obligatory encore.

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Footsteps
Jeremy
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Animal
Tremor Christ
Not For You
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Rearviewmirror

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That would actually be a really cool gig and about the only thing they haven't done live in the context of this band.
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I think Jeremy is a lock. That MTV performance where Ed goes all shit balls at the end was an iconic moment and at the time really kicked in more fans on the bandwagon. I remember, because I lived it. :D
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Coach wrote:I think Jeremy is a lock. That MTV performance where Ed goes all shit balls at the end was an iconic moment and at the time really kicked in more fans on the bandwagon. I remember, because I lived it. :D
I'm not sure that I'd agree that it's a lock, only because of their (seemingly) conflicted relationship with that song. (I mean, between Atlanta '94 and Red Rocks '95, they basically rewrote it twice.) I feel like if there's any one song that represents what Ed was fighting against in 1994 (other than possibly "Black"), it's that one. And, maybe I'm alone in thinking this, but the modern performances of it feel weird, like Ed's not really buying into it, but is still doing his best to get the crowd into it.

But I could not agree more about the weight of that MTV performance. (MTV had that performance in regular rotation, even when they were also playing the regular video.) The thing about it - if you look at where Ed's going shitballs, so is Dave. They're basically going shitballs in tandem - at times, Ed is almost doing a vocal version of what Dave is playing (or vise-versa).

By the time of that performance, I'd spent the entire summer listening almost exclusively to Ten and was a little bit burned out on it. But after that performance, I was in love with that song all over again, and even more so than before. Krusen could never have pulled off a performance like that.

The build-up to that moment at 4:18, and especially that moment.

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I've always said that Dave A locks well with Ed. You hear it on Porch a lot but the end of Jeremy is another fine example. He had the ability to lock in with each member and play off an element like vox or guitar. Porch Indio 93 has it during the Rollins tag.
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UglyRedHonda wrote:
Coach wrote:I think Jeremy is a lock. That MTV performance where Ed goes all shit balls at the end was an iconic moment and at the time really kicked in more fans on the bandwagon. I remember, because I lived it. :D
I'm not sure that I'd agree that it's a lock, only because of their (seemingly) conflicted relationship with that song. (I mean, between Atlanta '94 and Red Rocks '95, they basically rewrote it twice.) I feel like if there's any one song that represents what Ed was fighting against in 1994 (other than possibly "Black"), it's that one. And, maybe I'm alone in thinking this, but the modern performances of it feel weird, like Ed's not really buying into it, but is still doing his best to get the crowd into it.

But I could not agree more about the weight of that MTV performance. (MTV had that performance in regular rotation, even when they were also playing the regular video.) The thing about it - if you look at where Ed's going shitballs, so is Dave. They're basically going shitballs in tandem - at times, Ed is almost doing a vocal version of what Dave is playing (or vise-versa).

By the time of that performance, I'd spent the entire summer listening almost exclusively to Ten and was a little bit burned out on it. But after that performance, I was in love with that song all over again, and even more so than before. Krusen could never have pulled off a performance like that.

The build-up to that moment at 4:18, and especially that moment.

Thanks for posting the video :thumbsup:
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pearl jam sucks now
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Coach wrote:I think Jeremy is a lock. That MTV performance where Ed goes all shit balls at the end was an iconic moment and at the time really kicked in more fans on the bandwagon. I remember, because I lived it. :D
It's what changed me from a casual fan to a "holy shit, these guys kick ass!!" fan.
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UglyRedHonda wrote:
Coach wrote:I think Jeremy is a lock. That MTV performance where Ed goes all shit balls at the end was an iconic moment and at the time really kicked in more fans on the bandwagon. I remember, because I lived it. :D
I'm not sure that I'd agree that it's a lock, only because of their (seemingly) conflicted relationship with that song. (I mean, between Atlanta '94 and Red Rocks '95, they basically rewrote it twice.) I feel like if there's any one song that represents what Ed was fighting against in 1994 (other than possibly "Black"), it's that one. And, maybe I'm alone in thinking this, but the modern performances of it feel weird, like Ed's not really buying into it, but is still doing his best to get the crowd into it.

But I could not agree more about the weight of that MTV performance. (MTV had that performance in regular rotation, even when they were also playing the regular video.) The thing about it - if you look at where Ed's going shitballs, so is Dave. They're basically going shitballs in tandem - at times, Ed is almost doing a vocal version of what Dave is playing (or vise-versa).

By the time of that performance, I'd spent the entire summer listening almost exclusively to Ten and was a little bit burned out on it. But after that performance, I was in love with that song all over again, and even more so than before. Krusen could never have pulled off a performance like that.

The build-up to that moment at 4:18, and especially that moment.

Then you have Stone running/hopping in circles... The whole band was all-in on this one.
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hlniv wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ :lol:
Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.

Follow your logic. He didnt play on ten. The record that broke them. He couldn't really play anything outside that same best at different speeds.. He had stupid hair was too happy and annoyed everyone.

He should be thankful for his job at bugerking.
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pearl jam sucks now
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dimejinky99 wrote:
hlniv wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ :lol:
Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.

Follow your logic. He didnt play on ten. The record that broke them. He couldn't really play anything outside that same best at different speeds.. He had stupid hair was too happy and annoyed everyone.

He should be thankful for his job at bugerking.
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That Jeremy was great.

Even though i never missed Dave A., he should be there.
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dimejinky99 wrote:
hlniv wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:So Dave should be included cos he was in the band when they were super famous?


Jesus Christ :lol:
Yes, that's correct.

And they wouldn't have been as famous without him. He was a part of their image for a very critical 2-3 year period.

Follow your logic. He didnt play on ten. The record that broke them. He couldn't really play anything outside that same best at different speeds.. He had stupid hair was too happy and annoyed everyone.

He should be thankful for his job at bugerking.
My god, this is just so wrong.
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