Live Long and Prosper; the Trek Thread

[McParadigm]

I really like this movie. It's like gonzo Star Trek. It's The Star Trek and the Furious. It is unapologetically bananas.

[BurtReynolds]

Halfway through season 5 and only 65 episodes left. FFS

[BurtReynolds]

This Eddington guy seems like the real hero. He's awesome. Give that guy a show. Screw the militaristic federation.

[bada]

BBC America has been showing a Voyager marathon. I happened to catch an episode that I remember liking during the original run. It was called Meld. It featured Brad Dourif as a psychotic Betazoid named Lon Suder. He was a real ray of light in an otherwise milquetoast cast. The character shows up again later in the series and I remember being so disappointed how his arc ended. He really should have been made a full time cast member or at least show up like O'Brian did on TNG. I thought it was a real missed opportunity and I feel the same now. To have a character who was struggling to control extreme violent tendencies that Janeway had to surrender her principles to occasionally and unleash in critical situations would have really gave that show a shot in the arm. I guess Jerri Ryan's body served the same function though.

[Anders]

I recently watched all of Enterprise again. Underrated show I think. Had some great episodes. Like all Trek there are also throwaway ideas and episodes, and too much time travel. But the good stuff was class. Very enjoyable.

[CopperTom]

Discovery delayed again. No date set. I'm guessing September.

[BurtReynolds]

I did it everyone! I watched all the DS9s! I'm a real winner.

notes:
-When it focuses on the wormhole/Cardassians/Dominion War, it is fantastic tv.
-The Klingon and mirror world episodes are ok. Ferengi ones are entertaining sometimes.
-Those Bajor-centric early episodes are absolute death.
-The filler episodes can be skipped without missing anything.
-Seasons 4 and 6 were the best.
-The Dominion and Cardassians make old enemies like Klingons and Romulans look like cartoon characters. Very well done.

Final season thoughts:
- Whose idea was it to add Vic Fontaine?! What an insane, stupid idea.
- wrapped things up pretty well, though the last episode was a bit of a mess.
- Kira and Odo have all the chemistry of two logs rubbing together. Nana Visitor is almost cringing her way through those scenes.
- For a minute, I thought Bashir was gonna be cool once they made him a Khan clone, but he went right back to sucking.
- Ezri was better than Jadzia (who sucked). More character arc in a season than Jadzia had in 6 seasons.
- Quark kinda gets left out. Apparently the actor had moved on to Buffy by this point.

character rankings:
cool guys:
Garak
Quark
Gul Dukat
Leeta's boobs
O'Brien
Weyoun
Kira
Worf
Eddington
Nagus

ok dudes:
Gul Dumar
Sisco
Odo
Martok
Rom
Ezri
Female changeling
Nog
Kai Wenn
Morn
Brunt
Moogie

shitty losers:
Ziyal
Vic Fontaine (WTF!)
Bashir (Annoying)
Jadzia (smug Mary Sue to a hilarious degree. Neat twist on the Spock/Data model, but completely wasted.)
Jake (makes Wesley seem like a cool guy)
The wives: Keiko and Cassidy (total wastes of space)

[LoathedVermin72]

I like Bashir

[BurtReynolds]

[bada]

I never understood Vic Fontaine.

[bada]

It would be pretty cool if this turned out to be good. A miracle but cool.

[BurtReynolds]

I'm reminded why Voyager sucks.

[LoathedVermin72]

Around what season does DS9 start getting really good?

[BurtReynolds]

4

[wease]

I'm starting to think this show is going to happen about like the live action Star Wars show did.

[BurtReynolds]

I'm reminded why Voyager sucks.

They jettison the premise of the show in about 4 episodes? Then it just becomes a lame TNG clone, without the memorable or likable characters (except maybe the doctor), but lots more technobabble. Janeway is ok I guess, but a pretty shitty captain.

I'll give it a couple of seasons.

wow this was on air for as long as DS9? I don't remember that, but I was over Star Trek by this point.

[bada]

Voyager is super weak on characters. Janeway is really the only one with any presence. I hate Neelix. 7 of 9 was OK. The Year of Hell arc was pretty strong.

[epilogue]

Is the finale of Voyager any good? I never watched any of the final season.

[bada]

I know I watched it but I don't remember any of it.

[CopperTom]

Old Janeway was involved.