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Well said, Ruddo. I don't disagree at all.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:I'm going to try to end this post on a positive thought, but first, that defense. Ugh. And mostly the secondary. I know Hargreaves looked like he had a bad game last night, but he is the only one out there doing anything. If he had help he'd be having a hell of a rookie season. He'll be fine, I just hope he doesn't let it get to him too much. But the rest of that secondary is just horrible.

OK, lets be positive. 28 points would usually keep you closer to a win in a game. Winston will be more than good once he can calm down a little. Mike Evans is a beast, and Cameron Brate has turned into the surprise of the season. And if a starting running back could just stay healthy. The O-Line has some holes but they seem to come together later in the game. I'm mildly excited that the Bucs actually have an offense...
VH3 would be doing better if they used him the right way, he is good a playing off coverage because he has great instincts and can make plays on the ball and the reciever quickly, but they have him playing way too far off, they need to have him tighten up a bit.

i will say that i was not excited by the Evans pick at #7 that year, it just seemed too obvious and boring and i wasnt sure if he could really play up to that draft spot but my god i love that guy, i hope they pay him a fortune and make sure he is a life time Buc, im so happy i was wrong on him.

ive heard of QBs having sophomore slumps but i dont think its supposed to happen to LTs, so i think Donovan Smith is just a bad, im not sure if getting moved to RT or possibly into Guard might help him but they HAVE to get a better LT this off season.

im always very up and down on Jameis, ill watch a game or worse just have to follow play by play and feel like he has played an awful game and get discuraged, but then i realize he is only 22 and trying to lead a bad team and he is staying positive the whole time, he makes a lot of bad throws but is almost constantly under pressure so he isnt getting a chance to be set before he throws and i think he is feeling pressure even on the rare occasion that the oline makes their blocks. i would love to see him look like the best QB in the league but realistically he is still super young and learning, i think as long as he doesnt get discouraged i think he will be great.

the defense is a dumpster fire and i dont know if it is coaching/scheme or if it is just lack of talent. i feel like they have 2 stud LBs, a maybe not great but a very good DT as well as a couple of other good DTs, some potential but no proven edge rushers and what seems like a mess of a secondary but possibly some good pieces there so are they players actually bad or are they poorly coached? i put a lot of Jameis's struggles on the defense because it seems like they always put the team in a whole that he is asked to find a way out of.

RB injuries are ridiculous this year, the top 2 out for the majority of the year so far and the big time surprise in Jaquizz also hurt now, how is anyone suppose to respect our run game and give Jameis, Evans, Brate, and Hump any kinda room to work.

i am getting tired of saying this after so many seasons, but there is a lot of potential on this team, i just hope they can fill all the gapeing wholes before all the potential gets used up.
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:a mess of a secondary but possibly some good pieces there so are they players actually bad or are they poorly coached?
The only good piece there is Hargreaves. Everyone else is complete shit. Grimes is awful, Conte wouldn't even make scholarship on a D1 college team, and I don't even know who McDougald is.
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Winston looked good. Mike Evans was awesome. That's all I'm going to touch on.

I really need a new star wars movie right now. At least arsenal is playing well.
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jwfocker wrote:Winston looked good. Mike Evans was awesome. That's all I'm going to touch on.

I really need a new star wars movie right now. At least arsenal is playing well.
Rogue One looks like it will be fun
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Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Winston looked good. Mike Evans was awesome. That's all I'm going to touch on.

I really need a new star wars movie right now. At least arsenal is playing well.
Rogue One looks like it will be fun
Donovan smith probably gets the whole group of would be heroes killed.
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jwfocker wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Winston looked good. Mike Evans was awesome. That's all I'm going to touch on.

I really need a new star wars movie right now. At least arsenal is playing well.
Rogue One looks like it will be fun
Donovan smith probably gets the whole group of would be heroes killed.
:haha:
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So instead of trying to tip the hail Mary, conte tries to intercept it and instead it bounces into the bears hands. Please cut this turd immediately, Tampa. Please
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:So instead of trying to tip the hail Mary, conte tries to intercept it and instead it bounces into the bears hands. Please cut this turd immediately, Tampa. Please
As a Broncos fan, I more than empathize with you. Conte has what's known as Rahim Moore disease.

Only highlight I saw was Winston turning a possible safety into a long bomb. That had to be entertaining to watch live.
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Green Habit wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:So instead of trying to tip the hail Mary, conte tries to intercept it and instead it bounces into the bears hands. Please cut this turd immediately, Tampa. Please
As a Broncos fan, I more than empathize with you. Conte has what's known as Rahim Moore disease.

Only highlight I saw was Winston turning a possible safety into a long bomb. That had to be entertaining to watch live.
Yeah he played good today
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Back to back good games by Winston.
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Welp, here we go
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Big big road win. I hope joey wasn't watching while he's in Mexico
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Big big road win. I hope joey wasn't watching while he's in Mexico
The only time I was in Mexico during football season, the one game I missed was the Colts blowing out the Broncos again in the playoffs. That was like peak butthurt Peyton Manning hate for me.

Thanks to the Bucs for not blowing it again, and defeating at least one AFC West rival. Aguayo looked like he was money today.
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Aguayo was good, he did miss a 51 yard one though.
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Didn't see Conte coming up with a play like that. Winston was money.
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jwfocker wrote:Didn't see Conte coming up with a play like that. Winston was money.
Yeah aside from that weird fumble he had, Winston was good. It is kind of frustrating that they get to the red zone with ease but can't finish, though.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Didn't see Conte coming up with a play like that. Winston was money.
Yeah aside from that weird fumble he had, Winston was good. It is kind of frustrating that they get to the red zone with ease but can't finish, though.

Yeah that was frustrating. The bucs have been much better about that this season.

The running game needs to pick it up. 3.0 per carry average is not going to cut next week.

Seattle is going to be brutal.
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jwfocker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Didn't see Conte coming up with a play like that. Winston was money.
Yeah aside from that weird fumble he had, Winston was good. It is kind of frustrating that they get to the red zone with ease but can't finish, though.

Yeah that was frustrating. The bucs have been much better about that this season.

The running game needs to pick it up. 3.0 per carry average is not going to cut next week.

Seattle is going to be brutal.
Especially since it is in Tampa and the Bucs are 1-4 at home. :/
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
jwfocker wrote:Didn't see Conte coming up with a play like that. Winston was money.
Yeah aside from that weird fumble he had, Winston was good. It is kind of frustrating that they get to the red zone with ease but can't finish, though.

Yeah that was frustrating. The bucs have been much better about that this season.

The running game needs to pick it up. 3.0 per carry average is not going to cut next week.

Seattle is going to be brutal.
Especially since it is in Tampa and the Bucs are 1-4 at home. :/

Oh its at home? Shit.
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