What movies are you watching?

[ABNorman]

"bone tomahawk"

B+. An excellent distraction on election night.

I really hope that's somebody's name. A sort of Native American Steven Seagal.

[RussellManiac12]

"House of the Devil"

Blah. I'm giving up on horror films. They just don't work for me anymore.

I love this one. Kind of a slow burn, but worth it. One of the few films that says it's a throwback to old school horror and actually delivers. It looks like a movie from the 80s.

I just wish they would have called it something else, because you could kinda guess what was eventually going to happen.

[Bi_3]

"House of the Devil"

Blah. I'm giving up on horror films. They just don't work for me anymore.

I love this one. Kind of a slow burn, but worth it. One of the few films that says it's a throwback to old school horror and actually delivers. It looks like a movie from the 80s.

I just wish they would have called it something else, because you could kinda guess what was eventually going to happen.

That was probably why I didnt connect with it, there was never the slightest doubt in my mind of what was going to happen.

[bart]

I agree. Also, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre would be much better if they had called it The Texas Unspecified Occurrence.

[BurtReynolds]

[Orpheus]

I agree. Also, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre would be much better if they had called it The Texas Unspecified Occurrence.

Never change.

[lennytheweedwhacker]

kubo and the two strings...i enjoyed the animation, but otherwise this did not do it for me

[epilogue]

Bad Moms was so much fun. Surprised how solid it was. LOVED how progressive it was. Laughed a lot.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[VinylGuy]

Bad Moms was so much fun. Surprised how solid it was. LOVED how progressive it was. Laughed a lot.

Oh my god.

¨Progressive¨....christ.

[Orpheus]

Why are you so put off by that?

[epilogue]

Why are you so put off by that?

I think he's trying to be funny.

[VinylGuy]

Why are you so put off by that?

I cant see why a movie like Bad Moms, is progressive really.
I just dont get it. Because Mila Kunis is in the supermarket in a very dull and boring montage?
Im not even going to discuss the horrible aesthetic, the wooden performances (Mila´s husband...is he a real actor?) but the overall feeling of ¨yeah this is edgy because ....¨ is whats i really really dont get.

[epilogue]

Why are you so put off by that?

I cant see why a movie like Bad Moms, is progressive really.
I just dont get it. Because Mila Kunis is in the supermarket in a very dull and boring montage?
Im not even going to discuss the horrible aesthetic, the wooden performances (Mila´s husband...is he a real actor?) but the overall feeling of ¨yeah this is edgy because ....¨ is whats i really really dont get.

It's progressive because it treats its female characters in ways we don't typically see in American cinema. You seem to have a difficult time thinking beyond the surface whenever this conversation comes up. I've tried and it seems I just can't explain this to you. So I won't try again. But trust me, it is very progressive. I certainly never said it was edgy. Maybe others have, but I wouldn't classify it that way. Feminist, progressive, positive, and fresh (in regards to the way women are represented and portrayed and in it's female-first, non-political stance, structure), sure, but not edgy. It isn't edgy.

Moving on to your other issues with the movie... I loved that montage. The performances are sometimes wooden (as I said, it's a flawed film and one of its flaws is that some of the performances aren't as good as they should be). But Katheryn Hahn and Kristen Bell are outstanding. Fabulous performances. I actually like David Walton (Mila's husband). This is probably the least interesting thing he's done but he's fine in this. I won't get into why his character and performance are also progressive in the sense that I mean it because I know now you won't agree with me. But that stuff is a part of why I like his role so much.

Anyway, I laughed a lot and really enjoyed the film. That's the bottom line for me. It's flawed but so much fun and it felt fresh inspite of its obvious plot beats. It's familiar, of course, like any romantic comedy but it's flipped and that's what makes it progressive and interesting beyond the tropes. It's not revolutionary film making. But it's a solid film with some great laughs in it.

[E.H. Ruddock]

As a side note, The Shallows did wonders for the female lead role in my opinion. Having a woman escape such an impossible situation, one that no man could have, was simply incredible.

[VinylGuy]

Why are you so put off by that?

I cant see why a movie like Bad Moms, is progressive really.
I just dont get it. Because Mila Kunis is in the supermarket in a very dull and boring montage?
Im not even going to discuss the horrible aesthetic, the wooden performances (Mila´s husband...is he a real actor?) but the overall feeling of ¨yeah this is edgy because ....¨ is whats i really really dont get.

It's progressive because it treats its female characters in ways we don't typically see in American cinema. You seem to have a difficult time thinking beyond the surface whenever this conversation comes up. I've tried and it seems I just can't explain this to you. So I won't try again. But trust me, it is very progressive. I certainly never said it was edgy. Maybe others have, but I wouldn't classify it that way. Feminist, progressive, positive, and fresh (in regards to the way women are represented and portrayed and in it's female-first, non-political stance, structure), sure, but not edgy. It isn't edgy.

Moving on to your other issues with the movie... I loved that montage. The performances are sometimes wooden (as I said, it's a flawed film and one of its flaws is that some of the performances aren't as good as they should be). But Katheryn Hahn and Kristen Bell are outstanding. Fabulous performances. I actually like David Walton (Mila's husband). This is probably the least interesting thing he's done but he's fine in this. I won't get into why his character and performance are also progressive in the sense that I mean it because I know now you won't agree with me. But that stuff is a part of why I like his role so much.

Anyway, I laughed a lot and really enjoyed the film. That's the bottom line for me. It's flawed but so much fun and it felt fresh inspite of its obvious plot beats. It's familiar, of course, like any romantic comedy but it's flipped and that's what makes it progressive and interesting beyond the tropes. It's not revolutionary film making. But it's a solid film with some great laughs in it.

I see your point but i still feel there is nothing progressive about it. Its the mainstream thought of being progressive, of women being ¨free¨.
Im ok with the last paragraph though, if you enjoyed the film thats the bottom line for everyone.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[VinylGuy]

Why are you so put off by that?

I cant see why a movie like Bad Moms, is progressive really.
I just dont get it. Because Mila Kunis is in the supermarket in a very dull and boring montage?
Im not even going to discuss the horrible aesthetic, the wooden performances (Mila´s husband...is he a real actor?) but the overall feeling of ¨yeah this is edgy because ....¨ is whats i really really dont get.

It's progressive because it treats its female characters in ways we don't typically see in American cinema. You seem to have a difficult time thinking beyond the surface whenever this conversation comes up. I've tried and it seems I just can't explain this to you. So I won't try again. But trust me, it is very progressive. I certainly never said it was edgy. Maybe others have, but I wouldn't classify it that way. Feminist, progressive, positive, and fresh (in regards to the way women are represented and portrayed and in it's female-first, non-political stance, structure), sure, but not edgy. It isn't edgy.

Moving on to your other issues with the movie... I loved that montage. The performances are sometimes wooden (as I said, it's a flawed film and one of its flaws is that some of the performances aren't as good as they should be). But Katheryn Hahn and Kristen Bell are outstanding. Fabulous performances. I actually like David Walton (Mila's husband). This is probably the least interesting thing he's done but he's fine in this. I won't get into why his character and performance are also progressive in the sense that I mean it because I know now you won't agree with me. But that stuff is a part of why I like his role so much.

Anyway, I laughed a lot and really enjoyed the film. That's the bottom line for me. It's flawed but so much fun and it felt fresh inspite of its obvious plot beats. It's familiar, of course, like any romantic comedy but it's flipped and that's what makes it progressive and interesting beyond the tropes. It's not revolutionary film making. But it's a solid film with some great laughs in it.

I see your point but i still feel there is nothing progressive about it. Its the mainstream thought of being progressive, of women being ¨free¨.
Im ok with the last paragraph though, if you enjoyed the film thats the bottom line for everyone.

VG, have you ever heard of the Bechtel test? It's simple: Does a film contain more than two scenes of at least two women having conversations about something other than men? It may sound silly, but it's pretty sad how few films actually meet this criteria. From that standpoint alone, I can see why Joey might consider this movie to be progressive.

Guys, few films?
There are a lot of interesting films about women that are far more progressive than bad moms. Ill give you two right now, Blue is the warmest color and Deux jours, une nuit for example. If we want genre, you can say It Follows and The Neon Demon are great choices.
Those are far more honest in their approach to women that Bad Moms.
Hell lets list every Andrea Arnold movie!

I can see Joey´s point for somehow i feel thats the mainstream diluted idea of being fair with women.

Its Hillary Clinton.

[VinylGuy]

Im dying to see Elle.

Thats going to be progressive as hell.

[bune]

So you bring up two indie/foreign movies from two and three years ago and consider the argument over.