The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

[Bi_3]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/

In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?

In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.

Interesting. So cutting corporate taxes keeps jobs here?

But really, the author must be completely ignorant of how the globalized economy works if this news to them. Of course companies do this. We see this at the state level as well.

That's not really the point.

Then pray tell, what is?

[Strat]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/12/01/bernie-sanders-carrier-just-showed-corporations-how-to-beat-donald-trump/

In exchange for allowing United Technologies to continue to offshore more than 1,000 jobs, Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax.” He was insisting on very steep tariffs for companies like Carrier that left the United States and wanted to sell their foreign-made products back in the United States. Instead of a damn tax, the company will be rewarded with a damn tax cut. Wow! How’s that for standing up to corporate greed? How’s that for punishing corporations that shut down in the United States and move abroad?

In essence, United Technologies took Trump hostage and won. And that should send a shock wave of fear through all workers across the country.

Interesting. So cutting corporate taxes keeps jobs here?

But really, the author must be completely ignorant of how the globalized economy works if this news to them. Of course companies do this. We see this at the state level as well.

That's not really the point.

Then pray tell, what is?

" Trump will reportedly give the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies to “pay a damn tax."

[Norah]

what strat said

[Simple Torture]

Not to completely agree with b_i, but I don't think he was arguing that Trump wasn't being hypocritical.

[Norah]

But the piece isn't supposed to be "guys look at this unprecedented corporate friendly deal the president elect made" but more "the guy who campaigned on a promise that he would force corporations to do the right thing and push back against the globalized economy is instead placating them the way we have for decades."

[Strat]

God chud is sexy when we are right

[Norah]

[Bi_3]

But the piece isn't supposed to be "guys look at this unprecedented corporate friendly deal the president elect made" but more "the guy who campaigned on a promise that he would force corporations to do the right thing and push back against the globalized economy is instead placating them the way we have for decades."

The article is advocating the use of the tax code to alter the behavior of multinationals so that they favor American jobs, forcing a concept of "economic patriotism". Which sounds surprisingly like Bannon's "economic nationalism ". Trump's (constant) hypocrisy is secondary and used to suggest this a universally held, bipartisan opinion. What's interesting is that the identity politics of the blue team are an anathema to this concept, yet here their champion proposes it.

My point was not whether or not Trump is a hypocrite, he is, it's that sweetheart deals like this are not shocking or new and are simply how large businesses interact with governments... with governments at the major disadvantage. Remember the old "build us a new stadium or I'm moving the team" line? Its the same thing.

[digster]

My pal was saying to me Trump and his administration will he kept in check by the beauracracy / heads of different departments/civil servants we call them here.
He'll want to do stuff and they'll go 'you can do this or this but you can't do that'.


Is this true?

Eh, to be honest I don't think anyone really knows how it's going to work out. There are innate checks that curtail the president's power, but many more of the things we expect a president as a given to do (i.e. offer the press access to the administration) are not enshrined in law. They're just things that have been done in the past. Nothing's constraining Trump from keeping those things going.

Whether he has some master plan or is shooting from the hip, Trump is doing many of the things autocrats do. He bends over backwards to not just push back against, but delegitimze any criticism. He tries to kneecap the press for when they eventually find damning information about them, it won't be truth come to light but lies from the enemy. Things like his flag tweet, and quite literally countless other examples from the campaign make it clear that he either doesn't know or doesn't care that the president does not have sweeping power to fight back against enemies or people he dislikes. It's also important to note that the executive branch is extraordinarily powerful, particularly in matters of national security.

There's a reporter named Masha Gessen who lives in America now, but basically had a front row seat to how Putin methodically took apart his opponents, detractors and the press in Russia to get it to the state it's in today. And she's fairly worried (http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2016/11/10 ... -survival/). Do I think it's likely that Trump could run roughshod over the Constitution in ways we've never seen? I don't know if it's likely, but it's certainly more likely than it's ever been, certainly in my lifetime.

[McParadigm]

http://nytimes.com/2016/12/01/us/politi ... ghast.html

Mr. Trump’s conversation with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif of Pakistan has generated the most angst, because, as Mr. Earnest put it, the relationship between Mr. Sharif’s country and the United States is “quite complicated,” with disputes over issues ranging from counterterrorism to nuclear proliferation.

In a remarkably candid readout of the phone call, the Pakistani government said Mr. Trump had told Mr. Sharif that he was “a terrific guy” who made him feel as though “I’m talking to a person I have known for long.” He described Pakistanis as “one of the most intelligent people.” When Mr. Sharif invited him to visit Pakistan, the president-elect replied that he would “love to come to a fantastic country, fantastic place of fantastic people.”

The breezy tone of the readout left diplomats in Washington slack-jawed, with some initially assuming it was a parody. In particular, they zeroed in on Mr. Trump’s offer to Mr. Sharif “to play any role you want me to play to address and find solutions to the country’s problems.”

That was interpreted by some in India as an offer by the United States to mediate Pakistan’s border dispute with India in Kashmir, something that the Pakistanis have long sought and that India has long resisted.

“By taking such a cavalier attitude to these calls, he’s encouraging people not to take him seriously,” said Daniel F. Feldman, a former special representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan. “He’s made himself not only a bull in a china shop, but a bull in a nuclear china shop.”

[96583UP]

their first mistake was taking him seriously

[McParadigm]

Sure don't like those recounts.

[BurtReynolds]

[wease]

Sure don't like those recounts.

Just the fact they're happening?

[Bi_3]

AL

[McParadigm]

Sure don't like those recounts.

Just the fact they're happening?

Apparently. He filed to try and stop two.

[McParadigm]

[E.H. Ruddock]

in anticipation of our new President!

[E.H. Ruddock]

also, at least ten of the new jobs created were to clean the Las Vegas airport bathroom last month.

[Strat]

in anticipation of our new President!

I haven't checked twitter yet but I'm assuming he's already taken credit for this?