Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back

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Before Luke passes out from being cold on Hoth, he sees obi wan's force ghost who tells him to go see master yoda, the Jedi who instructed him. What about qui Gon?

Yoda taught the younglings before they were assigned to a master.

And Qui-Gon is dead. Yoda is not.

[E.H. Ruddock]

Before Luke passes out from being cold on Hoth, he sees obi wan's force ghost who tells him to go see master yoda, the Jedi who instructed him. What about qui Gon?

Yoda taught the younglings before they were assigned to a master.

And Qui-Gon is dead. Yoda is not.

I understand all of that but can't a dead Jedi still get some credit?

[dimejinky99]

You want them to do another special edition and drop his name in?

[E.H. Ruddock]

You want them to do another special edition and drop his name in?

That would be nice, yes

[lennytheweedwhacker]

are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

[E.H. Ruddock]

are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

Maybe I'll get to it after I produce the Grievous stand alone

[lennytheweedwhacker]

are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

Maybe I'll get to it after I produce the Grievous stand alone

oh ok...let me know if you need any help

[E.H. Ruddock]

are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

Maybe I'll get to it after I produce the Grievous stand alone

oh ok...let me know if you need any help

Yeah I might. I'm not as knowledgeable about him as I am Grievous

[spike]

Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people.

That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it.

You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok.

I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid.

You're dragging George's sketches of ideas into canon. That's a whole different thing. They aren't canon.

I never said they were. Old Ben Kenobi did. Then Vader turned him into a liar.

I'm not disputing what's canon and what's not. Vader is Luke's father. No denial here. But to suggest them being separate beings as a "sketch of an idea" is ludicrous and incredibly naive. Especially, when Ben's line from the first movie is taken into consideration.

You really need to read the books I've recommended before arguing that it was all some divine plan he adhered to from start to finish.

Who cares, it made for a better movie/trilogy/franchise.

[LoathedVermin72]

"you really need to read the books," in any context, is the dumbest argument ever when we're talking about movies

[LoathedVermin72]

it also makes you sound like an insufferable fanboy tool

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Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people.

That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it.

You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok.

I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid.

You're dragging George's sketches of ideas into canon. That's a whole different thing. They aren't canon.

I never said they were. Old Ben Kenobi did. Then Vader turned him into a liar.

I'm not disputing what's canon and what's not. Vader is Luke's father. No denial here. But to suggest them being separate beings as a "sketch of an idea" is ludicrous and incredibly naive. Especially, when Ben's line from the first movie is taken into consideration.

You really need to read the books I've recommended before arguing that it was all some divine plan he adhered to from start to finish.

Who cares, it made for a better movie/trilogy/franchise.

I never said it didn't.

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it also makes you sound like an insufferable fanboy tool

Maybe. I just like to read about what happens behind the scenes. Dime seems like a dude that would like that, too. Thought he might like to read them. What's wrong with that?

[LoathedVermin72]

I should have been a better student of the scripts

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I should have been a better student of the scripts

Depends on your argument.

[LoathedVermin72]

what if gerge write 12 episodes

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what if gerge write 12 episodes

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[VinylGuy]

After Rogue One i decided to watch a new hope to see how they mashed together..and yesterday i felt like going for this one.

Man, such a beautiful movie. Every frame is gorgeous. The designs are amazing, every main character has an interesting arc, Vader is such a badass figure here..Luke, Han....this is a masterpiece in its own right.

[dimejinky99]

After Rogue One i decided to watch a new hope to see how they mashed together..and yesterday i felt like going for this one.

Man, such a beautiful movie. Every frame is gorgeous. The designs are amazing, every main character has an interesting arc, Vader is such a badass figure here..Luke, Han....this is a masterpiece in its own right.

Fanboism aside, it is consistently counted amongst the greatest films ever made for very good reasons. Those you mentioned and a great many more.

It's got absolutely everything.

[VinylGuy]

yeah, i wasnt even thinking about the film as a Star Wars movie.

Its just a masterpiece.