Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

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So what did you think (DcT edition)?

Best of all the films
8
9%
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi
2
2%
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire
6
7%
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope
2
2%
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi
2
2%
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi
1
1%
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire
23
26%
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels
15
17%
Better than the prequels, but not the originals
15
17%
As good as some of the prequels
7
8%
As good as all of the prequels
2
2%
Worse than the prequels
5
6%
 
Total votes: 88

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stip wrote:is that a gravestone?

Now you're talking. Remember. They could move him a few feet to the right and that stone wouldn't be in shot
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Why are we talking about this clunky movie when Rogue One is out?!
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this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
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I'll up my R1 post count when I see it again tomorrow
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stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
That's not a positive. Makes it lightweight and short in depth.

You could say the same about R1, but not really. R1 still takes more time to build the background, and for a smaller story, not one that is supposed to take the saga furter.
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Really baffled by people comparing them.

It is just cos it's the new movie I guess.

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Anders wrote:
stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
That's not a positive. Makes it lightweight and short in depth.

You could say the same about R1, but not really. R1 still takes more time to build the background, and for a smaller story, not one that is supposed to take the saga furter.
that something moves fast doesnt make it lightweight, just like something moving slowly doesnt make it drag. its all in the execution. despite its pace tfa gives its characters real depth and the set pieces are all exciting (and usually serve as backdrops for character development)

its only been one viewing so i want to reserve the right to change my mind, but the first half of R1 felt like it was treading water. ostensibly world building i suppose, but none of it felt necessary. that movie shined in its battles and dragged outside of them. and almost none of that material added to the incredible third act.
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stip wrote:
Anders wrote:
stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
That's not a positive. Makes it lightweight and short in depth.

You could say the same about R1, but not really. R1 still takes more time to build the background, and for a smaller story, not one that is supposed to take the saga furter.
that something moves fast doesnt make it lightweight, just like something moving slowly doesnt make it drag. its all in the execution. despite its pace tfa gives its characters real depth and the set pieces are all exciting (and usually serve as backdrops for character development)

its only been one viewing so i want to reserve the right to change my mind, but the first half of R1 felt like it was treading water. ostensibly world building i suppose, but none of it felt necessary. that movie shined in its battles and dragged outside of them. and almost none of that material added to the incredible third act.

It does get better Stip on second viewing but it still drags up to that third act. The scene with Jyn and the hologram of her dad really lands in the second viewing but weirdly his death scene doesn't at all. Feels forced and unnecessary.
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jyn's reaction to the hologram landed the first time. it was a powerful moment
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stip wrote:this movie is many things, but it's not clunky. it breezes from one sequence to another.
It's the exact same story as ANH.
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as opposed to a movie that exists to retcon a design flaw in a new hope?
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the point being that none of these movies are winning awards for innovative plotting, and thats totally fone. they are great at other things
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stip wrote:the point being that none of these movies are winning awards for innovative plotting, and thats totally fone. they are great at other things
I really want the Vader vs. Smaug movie to happen
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There's some Vader v Aliens art out there. That'd be a cool crossover.


No way would Smaug beat Vader. Vaders pulled starships out of the sky in the comic.
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
stip wrote:the point being that none of these movies are winning awards for innovative plotting, and thats totally fone. they are great at other things
I really want the Vader vs. Smaug movie to happen
is there any vader/smaug slashfic out there?
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A quick google reveals a ton of match up threads on Reddit but no art.


Sauron and Smaug v Vader and sidious is intriguing
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Who does the internet think will win
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stip wrote:Who does the internet think will win

The fact this is even being discussed means we've all lost.
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Lightsaber > Dragon scales
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That lightsaber isn't going to stop a flying river of fire
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