Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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just as planned.dimejinky99 wrote:It's weird the piss thing is still the talking point and not his campaign staff coluding with the Russians.
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BurtReynolds wrote:just as planned.dimejinky99 wrote:It's weird the piss thing is still the talking point and not his campaign staff coluding with the Russians.
Seems that way.
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Indeed.tragabigzanda wrote:No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?
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At what point will he actually turn all this around on the Russians saying they fabricated it all and make that the thing?
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Or that there is mounting evidence this is totally fake:Orpheus wrote:Indeed.tragabigzanda wrote:No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586
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but... but i want it to be true! What about my feelings?
wait this went on for 5 years? What was Russia's plan? To make him run for president and win with one of the most batshit campaigns in human history? If Putin was behind that, then I'm prepared to anoint him king of the world.
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BuzzFeed is partially owned by the Shinehardt Wig company?Bi_3 wrote:Or that there is mounting evidence this is totally fake:Orpheus wrote:Indeed.tragabigzanda wrote:No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586
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fake or true, it is an embarrassment he deserves for engaging in the spread of similarly baseless lies and insults against others for the last year or more
dishing it out and then having to take it - what a concept
something most politicians are normally aware of
action vs. re-action
you fight dirty, others going to fight dirty back
this guy isn't even in office yet and his list of powerful domestic enemies is a mile long. and there is no need for it to be that long. he just has a self-esteem problem so he burns bridges everywhere
After his tax cut gets passed some in the GOP may wonder if they can get the rest of their agenda passed better without his interference. Trump seems to be making enemies of pharma and healthcare industries, which are powerful lobbies. He also has pissed-off every major auto manufacturer. He has also pissed-on the U.S. intelligence community. Basically, he has two bridges remaining: 1) Financial Industry, and 2) Energy/military industrial complex. He'll probably leave the Banks alone. But the moment he headfakes on military industrial agenda that he is supposed to pass at their instruction, he will probably end up impeached or on an inner tube out to sea.
Pence will follow instructions. Trump probably won't
dishing it out and then having to take it - what a concept
something most politicians are normally aware of
action vs. re-action
you fight dirty, others going to fight dirty back
this guy isn't even in office yet and his list of powerful domestic enemies is a mile long. and there is no need for it to be that long. he just has a self-esteem problem so he burns bridges everywhere
After his tax cut gets passed some in the GOP may wonder if they can get the rest of their agenda passed better without his interference. Trump seems to be making enemies of pharma and healthcare industries, which are powerful lobbies. He also has pissed-off every major auto manufacturer. He has also pissed-on the U.S. intelligence community. Basically, he has two bridges remaining: 1) Financial Industry, and 2) Energy/military industrial complex. He'll probably leave the Banks alone. But the moment he headfakes on military industrial agenda that he is supposed to pass at their instruction, he will probably end up impeached or on an inner tube out to sea.
Pence will follow instructions. Trump probably won't
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They did recently receive a nice $200 million paycheck from NBC. Nice to see they spent the money wisely.Simple Torture wrote:BuzzFeed is partially owned by the Shinehardt Wig company?Bi_3 wrote:Or that there is mounting evidence this is totally fake:Orpheus wrote:Indeed.tragabigzanda wrote:No, it's more about the fact that he allegedly compromised global security because they have videos of girls peeing on a bed.Orpheus wrote:Shaming him for a fetish is dumb, but isn't this more about the rumor that it was intended as some sort of weird revenge against Obama?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/trump ... gs-n705586
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... terrified/
Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released
Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.
For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.
Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.
Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released
Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.
For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.
Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.
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Затем он побежал к SafeHouse глубоко в пулхауз Джордж КлуниMcParadigm wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/11/former-mi6-officer-produced-donald-trump-russian-dossier-terrified/
Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released
Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.
For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.
Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-3858942796583UP wrote:Затем он побежал к SafeHouse глубоко в пулхауз Джордж КлуниMcParadigm wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... terrified/
Former MI6 officer Christopher Steele, who produced Donald Trump Russian dossier, 'terrified for his safety' and went to ground before name released
Mr Steele, who spied in Moscow for the Secret Intelligence Service in the 1990s, fled from his home in Surrey after leaving his cat with a neighbour and telling them he would be away “for a few days”.
For months, he had been playing a dangerous game; tipping off journalists about what he said he had discovered from his sources in Russia about Donald Trump’s alleged dealings with the Kremlin, as well as claims that the FSB had hugely compromising information about Mr Trump’s activities during visits to the Communist country.
Mr Steele had been hired by a Washington firm to gather information on Mr Trump’s connections to Russia, funded at first by anti-Trump Republicans and, later, by Democrats. He also shared the information with the FBI.
And the former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".
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That guy's gonna get a visit from the polonium fairy.
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I think that part of it, that Russian intelligence would try to find info on Trump, is completely believable. We're talking about an immensely popular figure who floated running for president in 2012 and was the chief advocate of a call for his birth certificate that sucked in a significant portion of the Republican party. We bugged the German chancellor's phone; I think it's awfully optimistic of Putin's government to say they wouldn't try to keep tabs on a prominent American mogul and potential presidential candidate, however much a longshot he may have seemed. I feel like the presentation of the info, and the way it's written, sent up way more of a red flag than the content.BurtReynolds wrote:but... but i want it to be true! What about my feelings?
wait this went on for 5 years? What was Russia's plan? To make him run for president and win with one of the most batshit campaigns in human history? If Putin was behind that, then I'm prepared to anoint him king of the world.
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I also think this schism between Trump and the intelligence community is pretty much DOA post-inauguration. Trump is the furthest thing from a privacy advocate, and he doesn't seem to have any problem with the IC's findings besides when they tell him something about Russia that hurts his feelings. A president with an authoritarian streak like Trump's will find a lot to love fairly quickly.
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digster wrote:I think that part of it, that Russian intelligence would try to find info on Trump, is completely believable. We're talking about an immensely popular figure who floated running for president in 2012 and was the chief advocate of a call for his birth certificate that sucked in a significant portion of the Republican party. We bugged the German chancellor's phone; I think it's awfully optimistic of Putin's government to say they wouldn't try to keep tabs on a prominent American mogul and potential presidential candidate, however much a longshot he may have seemed. I feel like the presentation of the info, and the way it's written, sent up way more of a red flag than the content.BurtReynolds wrote:but... but i want it to be true! What about my feelings?
wait this went on for 5 years? What was Russia's plan? To make him run for president and win with one of the most batshit campaigns in human history? If Putin was behind that, then I'm prepared to anoint him king of the world.
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To play along here, what benefit would the CIA derive from hiding this? What would be their endgame? I can see a very clear reason why Russia would want this be "news", but I'm not so clear on what would motivate our Intel agencies to cover this up if they believed it to be real.McParadigm wrote:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38589427
And the former MI6 agent is not the only source for the claim about Russian kompromat on the president-elect. Back in August, a retired spy told me he had been informed of its existence by "the head of an East European intelligence agency".
Later, I used an intermediary to pass some questions to active duty CIA officers dealing with the case file - they would not speak to me directly. I got a message back that there was "more than one tape", "audio and video", on "more than one date", in "more than one place" - in the Ritz-Carlton in Moscow and also in St Petersburg - and that the material was "of a sexual nature".
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McParadigm wrote:lol