NBA Thread

[Monkey_Driven]

As far as Harden is concerned if we are going to shit on him for his style of play then all the Jimmy overrating around here comes off as even more extreme. Jimmys game is Harden Lite with some defense. Hunting fouls, dominating the ball ect.

Also, why does Steph get a pass on defense and Harden doesn't? Because Steph hunts steals?

Hunting fouls? Sounds like efficient offense to me.

I never said it wasn't efficient. And by efficient I mean good for regular season production and much more of a struggle come playoff time when defense tightens up and free throw hunters are left with the reality of their offensive limitations. Even Harden, who is much more talented than Jimmy, saw his efficiency drop from his regular season numbers in the postseason last year.

I'd pull up Jimmy's playoff averages for a quick look but he's never made the playoffs as the number one option on his team so it wouldn't really give me accurate info.

I don't buy the term "free throw hunters" at least in the negative connotation. It takes a tremendous amount of skill, strength, balance, and endurance to put yourself in a position to get fouled consistently. And then to knock down free throws. I'm also not buying the regular season vs. playoff difference from one series against the best defense in the league for 5 games. I would venture the guess that offensive efficiency as a whole goes down in the playoffs given the quality of opponents.

It may not be aesthetically pleasing to some, but putting the ball in the hands of a guy with strength, skill, and awareness to score and make the right plays is the best option especially in late game situations. The Warriors have been a different breed considering the unique skill they have at all 5 positions.

I don't mind it when he drives and is fouled going to the basket. I hate the jumping into defenders and the purposely hooking his arms up under a defender in good position. Refs need to stop calling that shit.

I get that, and they've done away with the wrap around attempts, but most of the time, the defenders are just not in good positions and just leave their feet. But the fact that he's a good 3 point shooter encourages allows for that to happen. He's a nightmare to defend.

Yeah, he's really good. Probably my front runner for MVP.

[pnjguy]

As far as Harden is concerned if we are going to shit on him for his style of play then all the Jimmy overrating around here comes off as even more extreme. Jimmys game is Harden Lite with some defense. Hunting fouls, dominating the ball ect.

Also, why does Steph get a pass on defense and Harden doesn't? Because Steph hunts steals?

Hunting fouls? Sounds like efficient offense to me.

I never said it wasn't efficient. And by efficient I mean good for regular season production and much more of a struggle come playoff time when defense tightens up and free throw hunters are left with the reality of their offensive limitations. Even Harden, who is much more talented than Jimmy, saw his efficiency drop from his regular season numbers in the postseason last year.

I'd pull up Jimmy's playoff averages for a quick look but he's never made the playoffs as the number one option on his team so it wouldn't really give me accurate info.

I don't buy the term "free throw hunters" at least in the negative connotation. It takes a tremendous amount of skill, strength, balance, and endurance to put yourself in a position to get fouled consistently. And then to knock down free throws. I'm also not buying the regular season vs. playoff difference from one series against the best defense in the league for 5 games. I would venture the guess that offensive efficiency as a whole goes down in the playoffs given the quality of opponents.

It may not be aesthetically pleasing to some, but putting the ball in the hands of a guy with strength, skill, and awareness to score and make the right plays is the best option especially in late game situations. The Warriors have been a different breed considering the unique skill they have at all 5 positions.

I don't mind it when he drives and is fouled going to the basket. I hate the jumping into defenders and the purposely hooking his arms up under a defender in good position. Refs need to stop calling that shit.

I get that, and they've done away with the wrap around attempts, but most of the time, the defenders are just not in good positions and just leave their feet. But the fact that he's a good 3 point shooter encourages allows for that to happen. He's a nightmare to defend.

Yeah, he's really good. Probably my front runner for MVP.

Yeah, triple doubles are nice but pretty arbitrary. Not going to give the nod to Westbrook because he has a few more rebounds than Harden.

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I'm a little surprised that LeBron hasn't made more of an obvious push for MVP this year since voters might have been inclined to give it to him as an extension of the Finals last year if he had a top 2-3 player season. I kinda think he thought 25/8/8 would do it but then Russ made those numbers look pedestrian and LeBron's style isn't to go for the 30/7/7 that would probably get him the award so maybe he kind of just gave up on it.

[verb_to_trust]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

[4/5]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

Free agent signing of the year.

[pnjguy]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

haha no. i'm talking their death lineup up (Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Durant, Green). Still can't believe that's a real team.

[Monkey_Driven]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

Free agent signing of the year.

2017 All-Star Zaza...

I'm a little surprised that LeBron hasn't made more of an obvious push for MVP this year since voters might have been inclined to give it to him as an extension of the Finals last year if he had a top 2-3 player season. I kinda think he thought 25/8/8 would do it but then Russ made those numbers look pedestrian and LeBron's style isn't to go for the 30/7/7 that would probably get him the award so maybe he kind of just gave up on it.

Two things holding him back from getting it:

1. Voter fatigue
2. It is so obvious when he is 100 percent engaged and giving top notch effort, it makes you take for granted how effective his 80 percent effort games are.

[verb_to_trust]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

haha no. i'm talking their death lineup up (Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Durant, Green). Still can't believe that's a real team.

Iggy sucks

[pnjguy]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

haha no. i'm talking their death lineup up (Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Durant, Green). Still can't believe that's a real team.

Iggy sucks

as your clear 5th best player by a wide margin who's only asked to play defense and hit an occasional 3, he's not bad.

[verb_to_trust]

I hope 4/5s Johnson is okay. Heat plane slid off the runway.

[verb_to_trust]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

haha no. i'm talking their death lineup up (Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Durant, Green). Still can't believe that's a real team.

Iggy sucks

as your clear 5th best player by a wide margin who's only asked to play defense and hit an occasional 3, he's not bad.

With that trash bench the Warriors are one injury away from falling out of contention this season.

[pnjguy]

The Warriors have unique skill at all 5 positions? Are you including.....Zaza?!

haha no. i'm talking their death lineup up (Curry, Thompson, Iggy, Durant, Green). Still can't believe that's a real team.

Iggy sucks

as your clear 5th best player by a wide margin who's only asked to play defense and hit an occasional 3, he's not bad.

With that trash bench the Warriors are one injury away from falling out of contention this season.

You can say that about a lot of teams, if anything, the Warriors would be best equipped if they had a major injury versus a major injury happening to Cleveland, Spurs etc.

Imagine how interesting the East would be if Kyrie got hurt.

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Cleveland could probably deal for Rondo if that happened.

[verb_to_trust]

Worst potential injury to the Warriors in order would be:

Green
Durant
Curry
Klay
.... Zaza

[pnjguy]

Cleveland could probably deal for Rondo if that happened.

hell, they can do it now. Didn't you hear? Hoiberg wants him to be the leader of the second unit!

[Monkey_Driven]

Worst potential injury to the Warriors in order would be:

Green
Durant
Curry
Klay
.... Zaza

A Green injury would definitely be worst case scenario.

[verb_to_trust]

Cleveland could probably deal for Rondo if that happened.

hell, they can do it now. Didn't you hear? Hoiberg wants him to be the leader of the second unit!

I'm amazed at how well Rondo is restraining himself. The Bulls want so badly for him to implode so they can scapegoat him.

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So Rose's AWOL stint apparently cost him about $200k. That's a chunk of change.

[Monkey_Driven]

So Rose's AWOL stint apparently cost him about $200k. That's a chunk of change.

Probably about 10 percent of his next contract.

[verb_to_trust]

So Rose's AWOL stint apparently cost him about $200k. That's a chunk of change.

Probably about 10 percent of his next contract.

His ego won't allow it but could you imagine him as the PG off the bench for a team like Cleveland at 20 mins a night? The Nets will probably end up maxing him or something.