Let's Actually Watch the Movie: A New Hope

[dimejinky99]

Is it the one where Lucas took all the fighter shots to inspire and show his model crew what he wanted with the battle over the Death Star?

[stip]

I believe so, though I've never seen it myself.

[LoathedVermin72]

No, it's not whatever that is. It's a WWII movie about two American soldiers who infiltrate a Nazi castle by impersonating Nazis. Sound familiar?

[stip]

Sounds like this guy invented time travel so he could go into the future, rip off a new hope, and then travel back in time to a point where no one would suspect him.

I think I have seen that movie, LV. It was pretty cool, if I recall correctly.

There is some other WWII movie about dogfighting that the death star assault sequence in new hope is allegedly highly indebted to. Which I could care less about, personally, but it's still a thing that happened.

[wease]

As much as Lucas has been faulted for his revisionist history of the events that led to the SAGA*, Lucas has never failed to admit where he cribbed influences from. He's been quite forthright about it.

*Yes, I include myself.

[LoathedVermin72]

To be clear, it doesn't bother me at all either. I love both Where Eagles Dare and A New Hope.

[dimejinky99]

I've read countless Star Wars books about its history but have never once heard that film mentioned as an influence. Anywhere else either infact. I'll look it up.

[LoathedVermin72]

It has a scene where the heroes are holed up in a room, holding off waves of Nazis coming down a hallway with machine guns. It is remarkably similar to when the heroes are holding off waves of stormtroopers coming down a hallway with blasters. If I'm not mistaken, it even has some of the same lines ("We're gonna have company," or something like that).

I've also always thought the Hoth battle in ESB owes a lot of aesthetic influence to the tank battle in Battle of the Bulge.

[wease]

I've read countless Star Wars books about its history but have never once heard that film mentioned as an influence. Anywhere else either infact. I'll look it up.

As discussed previously, you've not read The Making of Star Wars. It's BY FAR the most inclusive. I'll check tonight and see if I can find that particular title. (You REALLY need to read that book.) I wan't to say The Secret History of Star Wars may mention it, too.

[dimejinky99]

Aw this is wonderful. Never seen it before. Bloopers reel from a new hope

[dimejinky99]

This guys book is amazing. This talk is brilliant if you're curious.

[dimejinky99]

Outtakes. Fascinating. You can feel how weird it must have felt to make this film. It's all so make n do low budget feeling.

Plus no way they were ever gonna use Dave Prowses voice

[wease]

Prowse at 11:30 was cool.

Bossk head just before 15:00.

[Strat]

Oh, but, oh no no no no Han, i've seen her. She's beautiful!

So is life


Lol. Awful. Glad that didnt make it.

[wease]

Oh, but, oh no no no no Han, i've seen her. She's beautiful!

So is life


Lol. Awful. Glad that didnt make it.

Heh

[Strat]

Movie making is so fascinating.

[Strat]

Oh, but, oh no no no no Han, i've seen her. She's beautiful!

So is life


Lol. Awful. Glad that didnt make it.

Heh

Lines like that made it into the prequels.

[wease]

Oh, but, oh no no no no Han, i've seen her. She's beautiful!

So is life


Lol. Awful. Glad that didnt make it.

Heh

Lines like that made it into the prequels.

Word.

[Strat]

Is Wease mocking me right now?

[wease]

Is Wease mocking me right now?

Never. I'm agreeing with you.