Also: even the title of the show is kind of an eyeroll. It's called Black Mirror because that's what you're looking at when your phone is turned off. It's a black mirror. C'mon.theplatypus wrote:It was the weakest season by far, but I also feel like sometimes Black Mirror doesn't know where to go with the premises. It builds up this nightmarish scenario and then it just sits there. Episode 5 of this season is a great example of this. Interesting premise (if heavy-handed), then plateaus early and resolves in the lamest way. Episode 1 of season 2, same thing.ABNorman wrote:I'm up to San Junipero - first episode was AWFUL, 2 and 3 were OK, San Junipero was wonderful, so a pretty mediocre season so far.
I think watching season 3 and seeing all of its weaknesses laid out so clearly (obvious and heavy-handed social commentary, mostly staid and ordinary visuals, narrative limpness, weak resolutions) has made me think less of the 2 previous seasons.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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A little hokie I suppose, but given the show's primary target (how we as a species are rejecting our natural humanity in favor of technological replacements ), the idea of using this imagery of seeing only a shadow of yourself because your bridge to this more desirable world is off is understandable as a title to envoke a commonality in the stories.theplatypus wrote:Also: even the title of the show is kind of an eyeroll. It's called Black Mirror because that's what you're looking at when your phone is turned off. It's a black mirror. C'mon.theplatypus wrote:It was the weakest season by far, but I also feel like sometimes Black Mirror doesn't know where to go with the premises. It builds up this nightmarish scenario and then it just sits there. Episode 5 of this season is a great example of this. Interesting premise (if heavy-handed), then plateaus early and resolves in the lamest way. Episode 1 of season 2, same thing.ABNorman wrote:I'm up to San Junipero - first episode was AWFUL, 2 and 3 were OK, San Junipero was wonderful, so a pretty mediocre season so far.
I think watching season 3 and seeing all of its weaknesses laid out so clearly (obvious and heavy-handed social commentary, mostly staid and ordinary visuals, narrative limpness, weak resolutions) has made me think less of the 2 previous seasons.
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Juniper was pretty good. I seem to like the more "out there" ones. The simpler ones aren't very interesting.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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"Men Against Fire": Possibly the worst episode of the series... bad acting, directing, and a borrowed plot.
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I thought the roach and bee ones were ok. Men Against Fire gives it's gimmick away too soon, and I've already seen the plot in a recent short, but the last twist was ok.
I think I'd forgive the show's faults if they were shorter. They're too long for these skimpy plots. Must be a British thing.
I think I'd forgive the show's faults if they were shorter. They're too long for these skimpy plots. Must be a British thing.
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Just watched ep 1. He fucked a goddam pig. This made me laugh. Remember when it was controversial for multiracial couples on tv? Our lifetimes. He fucked a goddam pig.
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Man, episode 3 was fucked up. Seeing Broadchurch's Jodi Whitaker made me so happy, but then....I was left wondering, would life be better or worse if she cheated on me? It would blow to be cuckolded but, on the other hand, it means I would have been banging her.
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So I finally decided to give this show a spin last night after sitting in my watchlist forever. Watched the first episode about the pig.
This show has a 5 star average rating on Netflix? That was a super boring, predictable, and kinda lame story line.
It's like Marilyn Manson went to film school and tried to SHOCK EVERYONE.
This show has a 5 star average rating on Netflix? That was a super boring, predictable, and kinda lame story line.
It's like Marilyn Manson went to film school and tried to SHOCK EVERYONE.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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The second episode "15 Million Merits" is pretty great as well.tragabigzanda wrote:The quality is all over the place. Try "The Entire History of You" or "San Junipero" for a couple that are universally acclaimed. And then "Playtest" is a personal favorite about video games.bodysnatcher wrote:So I finally decided to give this show a spin last night after sitting in my watchlist forever. Watched the first episode about the pig.
This show has a 5 star average rating on Netflix? That was a super boring, predictable, and kinda lame story line.
It's like Marilyn Manson went to film school and tried to SHOCK EVERYONE.
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I really need to watch the Netflix episodes, but my wife hates this kind of entertainment (tried to watch "Be Right Back" with her and had to turn it off only a couple minutes in).
EDIT: And I'm one of the weirdo's who actually kind of liked the Waldo episode.
Loved "White Bear".
EDIT: And I'm one of the weirdo's who actually kind of liked the Waldo episode.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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haha damn, i was just chatting with my buddy and he said he's tried 3 times to get through that episode, but he just does anything else that he can think oftragabigzanda wrote:Yea, I enjoyed that one.Bi_3 wrote:The second episode "15 Million Merits" is pretty great as well.tragabigzanda wrote:The quality is all over the place. Try "The Entire History of You" or "San Junipero" for a couple that are universally acclaimed. And then "Playtest" is a personal favorite about video games.bodysnatcher wrote:So I finally decided to give this show a spin last night after sitting in my watchlist forever. Watched the first episode about the pig.
This show has a 5 star average rating on Netflix? That was a super boring, predictable, and kinda lame story line.
It's like Marilyn Manson went to film school and tried to SHOCK EVERYONE.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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The pay is big, and Bing's speech works on many levels. Fuck, it's more relevant today in America than when it was written in the U.K.
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man, the more this episode sets in 12 hours later, the more and more i hate itbodysnatcher wrote:So I finally decided to give this show a spin last night after sitting in my watchlist forever. Watched the first episode about the pig.
This show has a 5 star average rating on Netflix? That was a super boring, predictable, and kinda lame story line.
It's like Marilyn Manson went to film school and tried to SHOCK EVERYONE.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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