Re: The 47th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

[wease]

https://www.yahoo.com/digest/20170117/gop-makes-plans-invalidate-endangered-species-act-00837573

I'm so excited to live in our coming scorched, lifeless hellscape of rich white men

Hey, as long as they get to have fried bald eagle instead of the cheap man's fried chicken it will all be good.

[BurtReynolds]

If only we had a system of checks and balances and limited, decentralized government to prevent power from consolidating into the hands of a---EXECUTIVE ORDER 66.

[Strat]

Go ahead and hate/insult me.

I can understand being disappointed in the results of the election but most of what I see from the left, calling everyone a Nazi or a white nationalist, the calls for resistance instead of greater understanding, seems designed to help Trump and increase the likelihood of his winning a second term.

People are disappointed but they aren't upset cause they lost. You are missing the point. And you keep overlooking the obvious personality traits that are linking this administration to facism. Blatantly from Steve Bannon. These are not left slants. Do some overreact? Yes. Do I think the world will correct itself in 4 years? yes. Do i think this administration operates towards a fascist ideal? Absofuckinglutely. If you can't see that then you MIGHT be sympathetic to such ideals. Thats your other side that you need to be aware of and understand.

[Strat]

If only we had a system of checks and balances and limited, decentralized government to prevent power from consolidating into the hands of a---EXECUTIVE ORDER 66.

Do we have checks and balances right now?

[BurtReynolds]

If only we had a system of checks and balances and limited, decentralized government to prevent power from consolidating into the hands of a---EXECUTIVE ORDER 66.

Do we have checks and balances right now?

*ceremonial

[BurtReynolds]

Go ahead and hate/insult me.

I can understand being disappointed in the results of the election but most of what I see from the left, calling everyone a Nazi or a white nationalist, the calls for resistance instead of greater understanding, seems designed to help Trump and increase the likelihood of his winning a second term.

People are disappointed but they aren't upset cause they lost. You are missing the point. And you keep overlooking the obvious personality traits that are linking this administration to facism. Blatantly from Steve Bannon. These are not left slants. Do some overreact? Yes. Do I think the world will correct itself in 4 years? yes. Do i think this administration operates towards a fascist ideal? Absofuckinglutely. If you can't see that then you MIGHT be sympathetic to such ideals. Thats your other side that you need to be aware of and understand.

true

[Strat]

Go ahead and hate/insult me.

I can understand being disappointed in the results of the election but most of what I see from the left, calling everyone a Nazi or a white nationalist, the calls for resistance instead of greater understanding, seems designed to help Trump and increase the likelihood of his winning a second term.

People are disappointed but they aren't upset cause they lost. You are missing the point. And you keep overlooking the obvious personality traits that are linking this administration to facism. Blatantly from Steve Bannon. These are not left slants. Do some overreact? Yes. Do I think the world will correct itself in 4 years? yes. Do i think this administration operates towards a fascist ideal? Absofuckinglutely. If you can't see that then you MIGHT be sympathetic to such ideals. Thats your other side that you need to be aware of and understand.

true

[BurtReynolds]

oh sorry I thought I was quoting someone else.

[Strat]

perfect. Carry on

Also, Garrison Keillor gets it. he always gets it though.

What we know so far is that the man is who he is. There is no larger, finer man inside him trying to get out. Everyone who is paying attention knows this. Flags flying at the Capitol, the U.S. Marine Band, gray eminences in black coats, and He Who Is Smarter than Those With Intelligence delivers 16 minutes of hooey and horse hockey about corrupt politicians betraying the people, and American carnage, and patriotism healing our divisions, though the division is mainly about Himself and love of country does not necessarily make people stupid.

There might as well have been a 14-year-old boy at the podium saying that he is in possession of the Golden Goblet that will drive the Gimlets from Fredonia and preserve the Sacred Marmite of Lord Numbskull and his Nimrods.

The next day he motored out to the CIA and stood before the memorial wall honoring the heroes who gave their lives in anonymity and he bitched about his newspaper coverage. The next day he boasted that his inaugural's TV ratings were higher than those in 2013. The day after that, he told the congressional leadership that he lost the popular vote because millions of illegal votes were cast, which everyone in the room knew was a bald-faced lie, except perhaps Himself. The man is clueless, tightly locked inside his own small bubble. A sizable minority of Americans, longing for greatness or wanting to smack down an ambitious woman and to show those people in the hellhole coastal cities what the real America is all about, has elected him. To him, this minority is a mass movement such as the world has never seen. God have mercy.

"American carnage," my Aunt Sally: the correct term is "American capitalism." Jobs are lost to automation, innovation, obsolescence, the moving finger of fate. The carriage industry was devastated by the automobile, and the men who made surreys and broughams and hansoms had to learn something new; the Pullman porter union was hit hard by the advent of air travel and the porters sent their sons to college; the newspaper business was hit hard by Craigslist. Too bad for us. I know gifted men who were successful graphic designers until computers came along and younger people with computer skills took their place and those gifted men had to do something else. T-shirts are made in Asian countries because Americans don't want to pay $20 for one. Coal yields to natural gas as renewable energy marches forward. Who doesn't get this? The idea that the government is obligated to create a good living for you is one the Republican Party has fought since Adam was in the third grade. It's the party of personal responsibility. But there he is, promising to make the bluebirds sing. As if.

Everyone knows that the man is a fabulator, oblivious, trapped in his own terrible needs. Republican, Democrat, libertarian, socialist, white supremacist, or sebaceous cyst -- everyone knows it. It is up to Republicans to save the country from this man. They elected him and it is their duty to tie a rope around his ankle. They formed a solid bloc against Obama and held their ranks, and now, for revenge, they will go after health insurance subsidies for people of limited means, which is one of the cruelest things they can possibly do. Dishwashers and cleaning ladies need heart surgery too -- hospital emergency rooms already see streams of sick people, uninsured, poor or unable to deal with the paperwork, coming in for ordinary care, and when upward of 30 million are left high and dry, people will suffer horribly. "We're not going to let people die in the streets," Mr. Trump said. No, they're going to die at home in their bedrooms.

The question is: how cynical are we willing to be and for how long? How long will Senate Republicans wait until a few of them stand up to the man? Greatness is in the eye of the beholder. American self-respect is what is at stake here, ladies and gentlemen. The only good things to come out of that inauguration were the marches all over the country the day after, millions of people taking to the streets of their own free will, most of them women, packed in tight, lots of pink hats, lots of signage, earnest, vulgar, witty, a few brilliant ("Take your broken heart and make it art"), and all of it rather civil and good-humored. That's the great America I grew up in. It's still here.

[wease]

perfect. Carry on

Also, Garrison Keillor gets it. he always gets it though.

What we know so far is that the man is who he is. There is no larger, finer man inside him trying to get out. Everyone who is paying attention knows this. Flags flying at the Capitol, the U.S. Marine Band, gray eminences in black coats, and He Who Is Smarter than Those With Intelligence delivers 16 minutes of hooey and horse hockey about corrupt politicians betraying the people, and American carnage, and patriotism healing our divisions, though the division is mainly about Himself and love of country does not necessarily make people stupid.

There might as well have been a 14-year-old boy at the podium saying that he is in possession of the Golden Goblet that will drive the Gimlets from Fredonia and preserve the Sacred Marmite of Lord Numbskull and his Nimrods.

The next day he motored out to the CIA and stood before the memorial wall honoring the heroes who gave their lives in anonymity and he bitched about his newspaper coverage. The next day he boasted that his inaugural's TV ratings were higher than those in 2013. The day after that, he told the congressional leadership that he lost the popular vote because millions of illegal votes were cast, which everyone in the room knew was a bald-faced lie, except perhaps Himself. The man is clueless, tightly locked inside his own small bubble. A sizable minority of Americans, longing for greatness or wanting to smack down an ambitious woman and to show those people in the hellhole coastal cities what the real America is all about, has elected him. To him, this minority is a mass movement such as the world has never seen. God have mercy.

"American carnage," my Aunt Sally: the correct term is "American capitalism." Jobs are lost to automation, innovation, obsolescence, the moving finger of fate. The carriage industry was devastated by the automobile, and the men who made surreys and broughams and hansoms had to learn something new; the Pullman porter union was hit hard by the advent of air travel and the porters sent their sons to college; the newspaper business was hit hard by Craigslist. Too bad for us. I know gifted men who were successful graphic designers until computers came along and younger people with computer skills took their place and those gifted men had to do something else. T-shirts are made in Asian countries because Americans don't want to pay $20 for one. Coal yields to natural gas as renewable energy marches forward. Who doesn't get this? The idea that the government is obligated to create a good living for you is one the Republican Party has fought since Adam was in the third grade. It's the party of personal responsibility. But there he is, promising to make the bluebirds sing. As if.

Everyone knows that the man is a fabulator, oblivious, trapped in his own terrible needs. Republican, Democrat, libertarian, socialist, white supremacist, or sebaceous cyst -- everyone knows it. It is up to Republicans to save the country from this man. They elected him and it is their duty to tie a rope around his ankle. They formed a solid bloc against Obama and held their ranks, and now, for revenge, they will go after health insurance subsidies for people of limited means, which is one of the cruelest things they can possibly do. Dishwashers and cleaning ladies need heart surgery too -- hospital emergency rooms already see streams of sick people, uninsured, poor or unable to deal with the paperwork, coming in for ordinary care, and when upward of 30 million are left high and dry, people will suffer horribly. "We're not going to let people die in the streets," Mr. Trump said. No, they're going to die at home in their bedrooms.

The question is: how cynical are we willing to be and for how long? How long will Senate Republicans wait until a few of them stand up to the man? Greatness is in the eye of the beholder. American self-respect is what is at stake here, ladies and gentlemen. The only good things to come out of that inauguration were the marches all over the country the day after, millions of people taking to the streets of their own free will, most of them women, packed in tight, lots of pink hats, lots of signage, earnest, vulgar, witty, a few brilliant ("Take your broken heart and make it art"), and all of it rather civil and good-humored. That's the great America I grew up in. It's still here.

Yep. He gets it.

[Bi_3]

Hey Spenno,

I appreciate your arguments and thoughts, even if I disagree with the majority of them (but not all of them). They'll help keep the liberal snowflakes on their toes. Keep 'em coming.

They are just tasting the same anger and frustration that the red team had back in 2009.

I have no issue with stopping immigration from suspected terror sponsors that are not crucial for our economy for 90 days while a better vetting system is put in place. (Blocking green card holders is absurd though.)

[Strat]

Hey Spenno,

I appreciate your arguments and thoughts, even if I disagree with the majority of them (but not all of them). They'll help keep the liberal snowflakes on their toes. Keep 'em coming.

They are just tasting the same anger and frustration that the red team had back in 2009.

I have no issue with stopping immigration from suspected terror sponsors that are not crucial for our economy for 90 days while a better vetting system is put in place. (Blocking green card holders is absurd though.)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/no- ... mg00000063

Also, i hope my girlfriend has no troubles coming back from Laos and Thailand next week. Glad she's white!

[Strat]

Hey Spenno,

I appreciate your arguments and thoughts, even if I disagree with the majority of them (but not all of them). They'll help keep the liberal snowflakes on their toes. Keep 'em coming.

They are just tasting the same anger and frustration that the red team had back in 2009.

I have no issue with stopping immigration from suspected terror sponsors that are not crucial for our economy for 90 days while a better vetting system is put in place. (Blocking green card holders is absurd though.)

No we are angry about his facist policies and absolute fear mongering and inability to grasp facts and creating their own reality.

They just hated a black president. *

*moslty true and somewhat said in jest

[Strat]

Just making america great again. For the working class. Nothing to see here

The 19 terrorists in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates, Myre points out. They are among the Muslim-majority countries not affected by Trump's immigration freeze, but where Trump does business.

He has significant commercial interests in Turkey and Azerbaijan, is developing properties in Indonesia and Dubai, and has formed companies in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. His daughter Ivanka said in 2015 that the company was looking at "multiple opportunities in Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar, Saudi Arabia — the four areas where we are seeing the most interest."

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783 ... -interests

[washing machine]

The protest happening right now at JFK feels like a big deal in ways that past protests haven't, save the women's marches last week.

[Strat]

The protest happening right now at JFK feels like a big deal in ways that past protests haven't, save the women's marches last week.

We're heading for World War 3, right?

[Birds in Hell]

Just making america great again. For the working class. Nothing to see here

The 19 terrorists in the Sept. 11 attacks were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon and the United Arab Emirates, Myre points out. They are among the Muslim-majority countries not affected by Trump's immigration freeze, but where Trump does business.

He has significant commercial interests in Turkey and Azerbaijan, is developing properties in Indonesia and Dubai, and has formed companies in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. His daughter Ivanka said in 2015 that the company was looking at "multiple opportunities in Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Qatar, Saudi Arabia — the four areas where we are seeing the most interest."

http://www.npr.org/2017/01/28/511996783 ... -interests

Gee, I wonder if there's some other factor that explains why:
- the USA might seek to delay/block immigration from those countries; and
- Trump doesn't have business interests there.

I can't grasp how anyone doesn't read that blurb and immediately find it absurd.

[Strat]

Geezes christ spenno. Lets read more about facts

There have been zero fatal terror attacks on U.S. soil since 1975 by immigrants from the seven Muslim-majority countries President Donald Trump targeted with immigration bans on Friday, further highlighting the needlessness and cruelty of the president’s executive order.

Between 1975 and 2015, foreign nationals from Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria and Yemen killed exactly zero Americans on U.S. soil, according to an analysis of terror attacks by the Cato Institute.

Moreover, a report released this week shows that Muslim Americans with family backgrounds in those seven countries have killed no Americans over the last 15 years.

Twenty-three percent of the Muslim Americans involved with violent extremist plots since Sept. 11, 2001, had family backgrounds in Iran, Iraq, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Syria or Yemen, according to a Triangle Center on Terrorism and Homeland Security report released this week. None of those plots resulted in American deaths.

Similarly, none of the 19 plane hijackers on 9/11 were from any of those seven countries.

[Birds in Hell]

Geezes christ spenno. Lets read more about facts

There have been zero fatal terror attacks on U.S. soil since 1975 by immigrants from the seven Muslim-majority countries President Donald Trump targeted with immigration bans on Friday, further highlighting the needlessness and cruelty of the president’s executive order.

This is a bizarre metric - what relevance does this have? It's 2017, the state of the world today isn't comparable to that of 1975, 2001 or 2016.

If that actually were the justification, "your guys killed us, so we'll block you!", it would actually strike me as being pointlessly punitive absent of other considerations.

[Strat]

Geezes christ spenno. Lets read more about facts

There have been zero fatal terror attacks on U.S. soil since 1975 by immigrants from the seven Muslim-majority countries President Donald Trump targeted with immigration bans on Friday, further highlighting the needlessness and cruelty of the president’s executive order.

This is a bizarre metric - what relevance does this have? It's 2017, the state of the world today isn't comparable to that of 1975, 2001 or 2016.

If that actually were the justification, "your guys killed us, so we'll block you!", it would actually strike me as being pointlessly punitive absent of other considerations.

But he's doing this to stop the bad terrorists who want to blow us up from coming in. The facts say - they dont come from these areas. You dont grasp this, spenno

wtf