Super Bowl LI: Belichick vs. Dimitroff/Pioli

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Tom Brady being emotionally affected by his mother's health will likely propel the Patriots to an offensive barrage the likes of which mankind has never witnessed
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Simple Torture wrote:
Electromatic wrote:and the Patriots played likely the easiest schedule in football this year.

The AFC east hasn't fielded a decent QB in 2 decades not named Tom Brady. They allowed 31 to a pretty pedestrian offense this year in Seattle. At home if I remember correctly.

The roster isn't all that impressive. Really good coaching, really good secondary, really good tacklers, but everyone acts as if this Patriots team is some kind of juggernaut. It's Bellichick, Patricia, Brady and a pretty weak AFC overall.

They averaged 28, the Falcons averaged 34. That sounds like a good number to me. It could go either way as far as I'm concerned, but some kind of blow out? You're not paying attention.


Most teams are going to score less than their average in the super bowl because the teams they are playing against are better. We also continue to make it harder to play defense, so to an extent it depends on how the game is called. I'm not at all surprised if the Falcons lose Sunday, but they aren't giving up 49. and the Patriots aren't blowing them out unless some kind of crazy fluke happens. Maybe the 2007 Patriots, but they aren't playing Sunday.
Woah, woah, let's all relax! Chill, everything is fine. I wasn't arguing for a Patriots blowout or anything like that--I just wanted to point out that high-octane offenses like the Falcons have don't necessarily have a great record in the Super Bowl--they tend to score a touchdown or more below their scoring average, especially in the post-2000 era. Trrrrrrrust me, as a Patriots fan, I know no team is invincible, no matter how many points they score in the regular season.
No worries, you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine and it's not all that serious anyway. The Patriots are the gold standard of the NFL since Kraft bought the team and the Falcons have been... the Falcons so it's not like your confidence is unwarranted.
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As much as I want Atlanta to win I'm about 60/40 leaning towards the Patriots. I hope I'm wrong and the last thing I expect is a blowout either way.
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Biff Pocoroba wrote:As much as I want Atlanta to win I'm about 60/40 leaning towards the Patriots. I hope I'm wrong and the last thing I expect is a blowout either way.
With high scoring games blowouts are generally more common. They often end along the lines of 48-27 with the losing team putting up many points in garbage time.
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I really hope the Falcons come out on fire. I'd love to see them march down the field on consecutive drives and light shit up.
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Falcons 31
Patriots 27
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Kaius wrote:Falcons 31
Patriots 27
yeah, this one
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EJ wrote:
Kaius wrote:Falcons 31
Patriots 27
yeah, this one
You guys better be right.
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Patriots 34
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I kind of forgot this game was happening in two days. :oops:
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i was just invited to a super bowl party with people i rarely ever see anymore...i have no other plans, so i suppose i'll go
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Electromatic wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Electromatic wrote:and the Patriots played likely the easiest schedule in football this year.

The AFC east hasn't fielded a decent QB in 2 decades not named Tom Brady. They allowed 31 to a pretty pedestrian offense this year in Seattle. At home if I remember correctly.

The roster isn't all that impressive. Really good coaching, really good secondary, really good tacklers, but everyone acts as if this Patriots team is some kind of juggernaut. It's Bellichick, Patricia, Brady and a pretty weak AFC overall.

They averaged 28, the Falcons averaged 34. That sounds like a good number to me. It could go either way as far as I'm concerned, but some kind of blow out? You're not paying attention.


Most teams are going to score less than their average in the super bowl because the teams they are playing against are better. We also continue to make it harder to play defense, so to an extent it depends on how the game is called. I'm not at all surprised if the Falcons lose Sunday, but they aren't giving up 49. and the Patriots aren't blowing them out unless some kind of crazy fluke happens. Maybe the 2007 Patriots, but they aren't playing Sunday.
Woah, woah, let's all relax! Chill, everything is fine. I wasn't arguing for a Patriots blowout or anything like that--I just wanted to point out that high-octane offenses like the Falcons have don't necessarily have a great record in the Super Bowl--they tend to score a touchdown or more below their scoring average, especially in the post-2000 era. Trrrrrrrust me, as a Patriots fan, I know no team is invincible, no matter how many points they score in the regular season.
No worries, you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine and it's not all that serious anyway. The Patriots are the gold standard of the NFL since Kraft bought the team and the Falcons have been... the Falcons so it's not like your confidence is unwarranted.
To be fair to ST, he was only posting some factual, historical stats about how high powered teams, including the '07 Pats, failed in the biggest game that only counts.
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Coach wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Electromatic wrote:and the Patriots played likely the easiest schedule in football this year.

The AFC east hasn't fielded a decent QB in 2 decades not named Tom Brady. They allowed 31 to a pretty pedestrian offense this year in Seattle. At home if I remember correctly.

The roster isn't all that impressive. Really good coaching, really good secondary, really good tacklers, but everyone acts as if this Patriots team is some kind of juggernaut. It's Bellichick, Patricia, Brady and a pretty weak AFC overall.

They averaged 28, the Falcons averaged 34. That sounds like a good number to me. It could go either way as far as I'm concerned, but some kind of blow out? You're not paying attention.


Most teams are going to score less than their average in the super bowl because the teams they are playing against are better. We also continue to make it harder to play defense, so to an extent it depends on how the game is called. I'm not at all surprised if the Falcons lose Sunday, but they aren't giving up 49. and the Patriots aren't blowing them out unless some kind of crazy fluke happens. Maybe the 2007 Patriots, but they aren't playing Sunday.
Woah, woah, let's all relax! Chill, everything is fine. I wasn't arguing for a Patriots blowout or anything like that--I just wanted to point out that high-octane offenses like the Falcons have don't necessarily have a great record in the Super Bowl--they tend to score a touchdown or more below their scoring average, especially in the post-2000 era. Trrrrrrrust me, as a Patriots fan, I know no team is invincible, no matter how many points they score in the regular season.
No worries, you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine and it's not all that serious anyway. The Patriots are the gold standard of the NFL since Kraft bought the team and the Falcons have been... the Falcons so it's not like your confidence is unwarranted.
To be fair to ST, he was only posting some factual, historical stats about how high powered teams, including the '07 Pats, failed in the biggest game that only counts.

I was speaking to Tyler at that time and the 49 point prediction not ST.

Seems like that got confused somewhere Probably my fault. It was an interesting stat line, that i missed, if he would like to discuss that further I'd like to get ST's take on that.

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Electromatic wrote:
Coach wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
Electromatic wrote:and the Patriots played likely the easiest schedule in football this year.

The AFC east hasn't fielded a decent QB in 2 decades not named Tom Brady. They allowed 31 to a pretty pedestrian offense this year in Seattle. At home if I remember correctly.

The roster isn't all that impressive. Really good coaching, really good secondary, really good tacklers, but everyone acts as if this Patriots team is some kind of juggernaut. It's Bellichick, Patricia, Brady and a pretty weak AFC overall.

They averaged 28, the Falcons averaged 34. That sounds like a good number to me. It could go either way as far as I'm concerned, but some kind of blow out? You're not paying attention.


Most teams are going to score less than their average in the super bowl because the teams they are playing against are better. We also continue to make it harder to play defense, so to an extent it depends on how the game is called. I'm not at all surprised if the Falcons lose Sunday, but they aren't giving up 49. and the Patriots aren't blowing them out unless some kind of crazy fluke happens. Maybe the 2007 Patriots, but they aren't playing Sunday.
Woah, woah, let's all relax! Chill, everything is fine. I wasn't arguing for a Patriots blowout or anything like that--I just wanted to point out that high-octane offenses like the Falcons have don't necessarily have a great record in the Super Bowl--they tend to score a touchdown or more below their scoring average, especially in the post-2000 era. Trrrrrrrust me, as a Patriots fan, I know no team is invincible, no matter how many points they score in the regular season.
No worries, you're entitled to your opinion as I am mine and it's not all that serious anyway. The Patriots are the gold standard of the NFL since Kraft bought the team and the Falcons have been... the Falcons so it's not like your confidence is unwarranted.
To be fair to ST, he was only posting some factual, historical stats about how high powered teams, including the '07 Pats, failed in the biggest game that only counts.

I was speaking to Tyler at that time and the 49 point prediction not ST.

Seems like that got confused somewhere Probably my fault. It was an interesting stat line, that i missed, if he would like to discuss that further I'd like to get ST's take on that.

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I've been avoiding any discussion, coverage, etc... It's 50/50; no outcome would surprise me. I have had my football heart broken before. I'll be okay.
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I'm obviously going to be pretty crushed if the Falcons lose but the Patriots are the more balanced team with the better defense by quite a large margin even without Collins.

If it's within a FG those of us with a rooting interest are going to have fried nerves but i don't expect it to be more than a TD either way. Falcons have to score 30 to win most likely.
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Electromatic wrote:I'm obviously going to be pretty crushed if the Falcons lose but the Patriots are the more balanced team with the better defense by quite a large margin even without Collins.

If it's within a FG those of us with a rooting interest are going to have fried nerves but i don't expect it to be more than a TD either way. Falcons have to score 30 to win most likely.
The defense has improved A TON since Collins left.
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numbers wrote:
Electromatic wrote:I'm obviously going to be pretty crushed if the Falcons lose but the Patriots are the more balanced team with the better defense by quite a large margin even without Collins.

If it's within a FG those of us with a rooting interest are going to have fried nerves but i don't expect it to be more than a TD either way. Falcons have to score 30 to win most likely.
The defense has improved A TON since Collins left.

Im sure that they wouldn't have made the move if they didn't think it would help them get better.
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