I love you so much.Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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I've been thinking "Comatose" meets "Bridge Burning" by the Foo Fighters.BurtReynolds wrote:Seems like something more in the vein of Hail Hail or Save You to me.
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On a slight side-note I do have to say that the timing of the Constitutional Hall release was perfect in wetting my appetite for this.
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And it's got a real crunchy, almost metal sound on the front. Is 'punk' the best way to describe it?
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You're all I have, Pete. You're also all I need.cutuphalfdead wrote:Who else is going to understand what you did here?Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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HAHA that's a hell of a referencecutuphalfdead wrote:I love you so much.Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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The only reason I compared it to STBC besides being up tempo, the chord changes sound very similar during the verses to STBC.BurtReynolds wrote:Seems like something more in the vein of Hail Hail or Save You to me.
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Good posts make good neighbors.Self wrote:You're all I have, Pete. You're also all I need.cutuphalfdead wrote:Who else is going to understand what you did here?Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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So well done. That Lloyd Bentsen quote stands as both mine and my father's favorite moment in American political history.cutuphalfdead wrote:I love you so much.Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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Self wrote:You're all I have, Pete. You're also all I need.cutuphalfdead wrote:Who else is going to understand what you did here?Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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I love it too! I mean love STBC too but as it was said its a song about records...this subject matter has weight to me. Maybe cause I'm older and more in tune with the world and its issues. But its catchy...raw...roaring...and its all over the place in a good way. The layering is something I really missed from Backspacer. It was there but all the layers felt separate to me. They didn't bend and fold over eachother. The layers here compliment each other. And the call outs at the end...not something I ever imagined the guys doing well, but I love it. Lyrically, composition wise and it ignites a fire inside me that I haven't felt In a long time listening to ANY music.... ZOMG!!! they were right....THIS SHIT IS HOT FIRE!!! ®durdencommatyler wrote:I'm not listening with a trained musical ear, mind you. And I'm not holding either of them up against other songs of the same/similar genre. I'm looking at each of them in a vacuum. Lyrically, the subject matter is more interesting to me in MYM. I love how much is happening in the song. It moves and shifts it very appealing ways, I think. I love the way Ed sounds. The guitar interplay is rubbing me the right way, even if it's bland to some.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
STBC is screechy and harder to listen to. It's less polished, sure, but it's also based on, what I think is, a pretty dipshit metaphor. I like the vocal melody, the vocal layering, and the call and response of MYM better than the over-earnest, shove that Grammy up your ass, tongue in cheek howl Ed's rocking in STBC. And STBC circle dissolves to noise pretty quickly. They did this sort of thing a few times before STBC and did it better in my opinion.
Now, when I'm in the mood for it, or when I'm listening to Vitalogy front to back, it's a juicy, well timed slice of power-punk rock that hits my gut and keeps running before I have time to ID the bastard. Which is awesome. As I said, it's grown on me quite a bit. MYM is still too new to call "better than STBC." But I like my first impression better. MYM is a more listenable song. Which maybe means it's too easy. Which maybe means it's not as good. I don't know. But I fucking love it.
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Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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I don't know...the verses feel pretty straight up punk, or at least a band like X or Dead Kennedys to me personally (I'll admit I'm not super well-versed). I think a big part of it is that sarcastic, sneering tone Eddie has in the verses, as well as the end.durdencommatyler wrote:And it's got a real crunchy, almost metal sound on the front. Is 'punk' the best way to describe it?
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I kinda hear motorbreath or some of the covers metallica did in the early days in the musicdurdencommatyler wrote:And it's got a real crunchy, almost metal sound on the front. Is 'punk' the best way to describe it?
Maybe its pj taking something back in exchange for metallica ripping off why go on their last album
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I bet Lloyd Bentsen likes appreciates STBC more than MYMcutuphalfdead wrote:Good posts make good neighbors.Self wrote:You're all I have, Pete. You're also all I need.cutuphalfdead wrote:Who else is going to understand what you did here?Self wrote:Thejambi, I served with Spin The Black Circle. I knew Spin The Black Circle. Spin The Black Circle was a friend of mine. MYM, you're no Spin The Black Circle.Thejambi wrote:STBC is by far my least favorite song on Vitalogy, so much so it is the only track I skip. Just a twenty something screaming about fucking records. I don't find MYM bland at all. It's not changing the world but the performance is tight and well executed. Ed sounds good and staying in areas he should and I love the lyrics. I'm not versed in too much 80s punk so I could care less if it is "neutered". The bridge is fantastic.Mecca wrote:This.theplatypus wrote:Man, I can't process the fact that some folks are saying this is better than STBC. It's such a neutered, MOR approximation of 80s punk. It could've been great had they gone for a more unhinged studio performance. What we ended up with is just so bland.
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I voted Its OK.
I think it's Backspacer with a little more meat on the bone. Interested to see what's next.
I think it's Backspacer with a little more meat on the bone. Interested to see what's next.
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Oh and great post, self.
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heh I'm listening to Smash for the first time in over a decade because of this post. Nitro is pretty badass.theplatypus wrote:They're comparable in that they're upbeat punk rock songs, except one is exciting and energetic and the other one sounds like The Offspring.BurtReynolds wrote: edit: i dont really consider them comparable, really.
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Here's another interpretation from the Pit:dimejinky99 wrote:LYRICS MIND YOUR MANNERS : seems the right ones!!!
I've got an unfortunate feeling
i've been beaten down
i feel i don't believe and now the truth is comin' out
what they take is more than a vow
they've taken your innocence and then they go around and burn and violate it
i'm only saying
mind your manners
i caught myself believing
that i needed god
and if it's out there somewhere
we sure could use it now
trying my patience
my patience's trying
this world don't know no better
and it makes me wanna cry
i'm only saying
mind your manners
someone say it
self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
ya know, no one's sayin'
mind your manners
always praying
self-realized and metaphysically redeemed
may not live another life
may not solve a mystery
right around the corner
could be bigger than ourselves
we could will it to the sky
or we could something else
go to heaven
that's swell
how do you like it
living in hell
go to heaven
that's swell
how do you like it
living in hell
go to heaven
that's swell
how do you like it
living in hell
living in hell
I’ve got an unfortunate feeling…
I’ve been beaten down…
I feel left unbelieving and the truth needs coming out
What they’ll take is…
More than a vow…
They’ve taken young innocents and then they throw ‘em on a burning pile
All along they’re saying…
Mind your Manners!
I caught myself believing..
That I needed God …
And if He’s out there somewhere we sure could use him now..
Trying my patience..
My patience tried…
This world’s got nothing left in it and it and make me want to cry
All along they’re saying..
Mind your Manners!
So they say!
Self-realized and metaphysically redeemed…
May not live another life..
May not solve our mysteries…
Right around the corner..
Could be bigger than ourselves..
We could will it to the sky..
Or we could something else..
All along they’re saying..
Mind your Manners!
Always praying!
Self-realized and metaphysically redeemed…
May not live another life..
May not solve our mysteries…
Right around the corner..
Could be bigger than ourselves..
We could will it to the sky..
Or we could something else..
Go to Heaven!
That’s swell!
How do you like it-- living in Hell?
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Feeling the same.Coach wrote:I voted Its OK.
I think it's Backspacer with a little more meat on the bone. Interested to see what's next.
I wish the lighter parts of MYM were a little more interesting (think poor girl) or a little darker.