Total Fucking Godhead / The Soundgarden Thread

[daft twat]

Getting to see the band again in May at a shitty festival in Wisconsin thanks to a fucking Groupon.

[CopperTom]

Tuscaloosa, AL on May 6.

They announce 1 show. WTF. This is an exercise on how not to announce tour dates. Fuck their management.

[VinylGuy]

Yeah, its been hard to really know when they are playing live.

[96583UP]

I want to Fuck their management.

i kind of like this approach

[Birds in Hell]

That news about the band documentary being shelved and repurposed into a Cornell vehicle has left me a bit unsettled about the band's future, I must admit.

Hopefully not a sign of old cracks slowly reappearing.

[VinylGuy]

That news about the band documentary being shelved and repurposed into a Cornell vehicle has left me a bit unsettled about the band's future, I must admit.

Hopefully not a sign of old cracks slowly reappearing.

You think?

They are still pushing their old material, doing live shows and planning a new album. It is weird that part of the band didnt want the documentary to be finished tough.

[Jammer XCI]

Cornell's always been a douchebag. If anyone has the rant I did about him as a teenager, post it since I don't even have it anymore.

I would really hope they come out with something new this year, Alice in Chains are.

[VinylGuy]

why do you think he is a douchebag?

[lecherouslittlestump]

Cornell's always seemed like a decent bloke to me, at least to his fans.

[WtOB?]

Cornell's always seemed like a decent bloke to me, at least to his fans.

didn't he cancel two shows to go play a walmart gig once?

[Birds in Hell]

I dimly remember him cancelling a show for a fashion shoot but I could be mistaken.

[tragabigzanda]

[lecherouslittlestump]

I dimly remember him cancelling a show for a fashion shoot but I could be mistaken.

I think it was for something to do with designer jeans. He caught a lot of shit for it and apologized if I recall correctly.

[fyfe79]

Apologies if this has been spoken about already, but it looks like the Singles soundtrack is getting re-issued in May with a disk of bonus tracks:

http://consequenceofsound.net/2017/01/s ... ron-crowe/

Most of the Soundgarden/Cornell stuff has been officially released already, but am I right in thinking that this is the first time "Missing" will be released? The leaked version has tape warp, I seem to recall, so it will be great to have (hopefully) a better version. Also, there are a couple of Cornell soundtrack pieces which are unique to this release. If the price is reasonable, I might pick it up.

Btw, I'm shocked they couldn't get Corgan to submit a demo of "Drown"... the guy releases everything else!

[matt reeder]

Btw, I'm shocked they couldn't get Corgan to submit a demo of "Drown"... the guy releases everything else!

There was some bad blood between Corgan and everybody else from Seattle. Chris Cornell got TSP a spot on the soundtrack because he liked them and then Billy basically slagged on them for years afterwards, or something like that. Plus there's already a demo of "Drown" out there, from Billy's abandoned archives project. There's an alternate version of said demo (or perhaps a different demo, I'm not completely sure) circulating in the bootleg community.

[bada]

I have a vague recollection of an article I read a million years ago that made me laugh pretty hard. I gotta find it. Maybe the details are wrong and maybe it wasn't that funny either my memory is shot but I think we can pretty much blame the impetus of the SP/SG feud on Kim not giving Billy enough attention at a show they were playing.

[bada]

Man you gotta love the internet. It took 30 sec to find.

This is an excerpt from the 1994 SPIN article “Hammer of the Gods” by Jonathan Gold.


A couple of days and a harrowing plane flight later, the band makes it to a resort town called Surfer’s Paradise, which is more or less the Miami Beach of Australia, a skinny coastal town about an hour south of Brisbane, pounded by waves and plagued with jellyfish, crowded with high-rise hotels popular with Japanese honeymooners. Surfer’s Paradise is the jumping-off point for the Big Day Out tour, a sort of Australian Lollapalooza that Soundgarden will headline this year. In the lobby bar of one of the tallest hotels, Cornell and Thayil are settling back with a couple of beers when Billy Corgan from Smashing Pumpkins wanders through, and decides to join them for a strawberry margarita. Corgan chatters about the pain of his life, the supposed incompetence of his band (everybody rolls their eyes), the lifesaving virtues of Jungian therapy, bands that suck. Cornell gets up to leave. Corgan tells Thayil how important Soundgarden used to be to him, and he baits him by saying that the Pumpkins sometimes do a cover of Soundgarden’s “Outshined” that segues into a Depeche Mode song or something.

“I’m thinking of making my next album really new wave,” Corgan says, “like ’83-’84 new wave, not like Berlin. I spend all my time doing things that may be a bit tangential, but I think I’m going to go back to the core, the heart music. Echo and the Bunnymen.”

This is standard stuff to anybody who has read even a single Billy Corgan profile, the basic curriculum of Pumpkins 101. But Thayil isn’t buying. He’s sore.

“Don’t you see,” Thayil says, “you’re this incredibly talented guy. People like your music. You have a good band. You sell a lot of records. You don’t need all this…stuff.”

“What sign are you?” Corgan asks.

“What do you mean, what sign am I?” Thayil says. “What difference could that possibly make?”

“C’mon,” wheedles Corgan, “when is your birthday?”

“All right, goddamn it: September 4th.”

“Aha!” Corgan says. “A Virgo. You’re argumentative.”

“Damn right, I’m argumentative,” Thayil says, and takes a long, angry pulll at his beer, “which you should know because I’ve been arguing with you for half an hour, not because of any sign.”

“I’m a Pisces,” Corgan replies. “We pick up on those things.”

A minute later, Corgan, still probing, finally finds the key to Thayil’s heart: “I hate how in magazine pictures, they always stick me somewhere in the back.”

Thayil explodes: “What do you mean? You write all the songs, and you do all the interviews. You play the instruments on the album. You control the band to the extent that most people think of Smashing Pumpkins as the Billy Corgan Experience, and all you care about is some photograph?”

“But I hate it,” Corgan says, “it means they don’t think I’m the cute one.”

“Ooh,” Thayil says a little too loudly as Corgan walks away, “I’ll bet he’s going to call his therapist in Chicago, wake her up at four in the morning, and tell her about that big, mean bear who made fun of him.”

The next day at the Big Day Out festival, Thayil is talking to Kim and Kelley Deal in the Breeders’ dressing room when Corgan walks past wearing a long-sleeved Superman T-shirt like the one your four-year-old nephew probably owns.

“You hurt me deeply,” Corgan says, touching the giant S on his chest and pouting. “You hurt me deeply in my heart.” The Pumpkins go on to play the best set anybody has ever heard them play, their usual passiveness and precision overlaid with an unfamiliar scrim of anger that throws their music into brilliant relief.

[Jammer XCI]

Yeah between Cornell and Corgan, Corgan easily takes the king douchebag title.

That article is hilarious. Corgan was shit talking Soundgarden (and Pavement's) reunion tours as cash grabs a few years ago too, well they had the original lineups and Smashing Pumpkins didn't even have Jimmy Chamberlain at that point.

[fyfe79]

That article is not real, surely? The conversation just seems too bizarre between two contemporary rockstars in view of a reporter.

[CopperTom]

Beale Street Festival on May 7.

Worst tour announcement ever.