Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Rank Lightning Bolt

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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gems and rhinestones wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.
guarantee you Roseanne gives a better one because she HAS to
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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gems and rhinestones wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:Sigh
Great contribution, keep it up
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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gems and rhinestones wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I am not what you would call a loyal fan. I dont care if you've just fed me twenty straight brilliant life altering songs, if the twenty first one sucks, it sucks. Track record just means I'll give it a shot, not that I'll like it more. I dont care that this is from Pearl Jam or anyone else. Its a fun little song.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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How has no one made a gif of the band clapping in unison yet?!?! get on that.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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gems and rhinestones wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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doug rr wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.
guarantee you Roseanne gives a better one because she HAS to
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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gems and rhinestones wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
Still i agree with Platypus...if the foos release something like this, most of the people here would be saying it " just an ok song".
This makes no sense to me. That's like saying if Rossane Barr gave blow jobs identical as Kate Beckinsale that I should enjoy them the same.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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BurtReynolds wrote:I dont care if you've just fed me twenty straight brilliant life altering songs, if the twenty first one sucks, it sucks. Track record just means I'll give it a shot, not that I'll like it more. I dont care that this is from Pearl Jam or anyone else. Its a fun little song.
Yep it's a good song but I'm sure the lightning bolt (like what i did there) is still to come somewhere within the other 11 songs. Usually I like 6 or 7 songs on the album better than the first single Pearl Jam puts out so I'm sure this will be the same.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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gems and rhinestones wrote:
BurtReynolds wrote:I dont care if you've just fed me twenty straight brilliant life altering songs, if the twenty first one sucks, it sucks. Track record just means I'll give it a shot, not that I'll like it more. I dont care that this is from Pearl Jam or anyone else. Its a fun little song.
Yep it's a good song but I'm sure the lightning bolt (like what i did there) is still to come somewhere within the other 11 songs. Usually I like 6 or 7 songs on the album better than the first single Pearl Jam puts out so I'm sure this will be the same.
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Along these lines, that other music in the initial YouTube that everyone shit their collective diapers over is still OUT THERE ready to be on the new album!
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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BOINGO! is a great username.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Birds in Hell wrote:BOINGO! is a great username.
One of the Darthvedders could use it.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Birds in Hell wrote:BOINGO! is a great username.
One of the Darthvedders could use it.
I say we have a DarthVedder-off. Winner gets to become "Lion Ed" with appropriate avatar.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.

Its kind of how you act sometimes :\

You can subdue your critical analysis when taking part in such an emotional medium. That doesnt make you less able to accurately judge your enjoyment.
Where did you get the silly idea that critical thought and enjoyment are two ropes tugging me in opposite directions? Like one needs to be turned off or diminished for the other to take over? That's not right.

I like the song alright. I stated as such several times. I think it could be a lot better, and it's a huge missed opportunity. But, more than that, I wince at all the glowing reviews I read from people who otherwise trash talk the punk genre (which this song is very much rooted in, if not a blatant carbon copy of) and Eddie's interest therein. It feels disingenuous, and like the self-deceiving declarations of folks who are so hungry for new material, and so desperate to be wowed by this band again, that they'll take just about anything they can get. This is making a lot of really big assumptions about a lot of people, of course, but I can't help feeling that way, especially when I think back to the comments I remember reading some folks making about having to endure Bad Religion as openers. That, and I think the whole "any song is instantly better if it's Pearl Jam playing it" is a foolish way to approach music.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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theplatypus wrote:That, and I think the whole "any song is instantly better if it's Pearl Jam playing it" is a foolish way to approach music.
If you really like Pearl Jam, I think that's a perfectly valid approach.

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
Strat wrote:Do things need to pass through a mathematical equation for you to enjoy them?
Yes, Strat, that's clearly what I'm saying. Thank you.

Its kind of how you act sometimes :\

You can subdue your critical analysis when taking part in such an emotional medium. That doesnt make you less able to accurately judge your enjoyment.
Where did you get the silly idea that critical thought and enjoyment are two ropes tugging me in opposite directions? Like one needs to be turned off or diminished for the other to take over? That's not right.

I like the song alright. I stated as such several times. I think it could be a lot better, and it's a huge missed opportunity. But, more than that, I wince at all the glowing reviews I read from people who otherwise trash talk the punk genre (which this song is very much rooted in, if not a blatant carbon copy of) and Eddie's interest therein. It feels disingenuous, and like the self-deceiving declarations of folks who are so hungry for new material, and so desperate to be wowed by this band again, that they'll take just about anything they can get. This is making a lot of really big assumptions about a lot of people, of course, but I can't help feeling that way, especially when I think back to the comments I remember reading some folks making about having to endure Bad Religion as openers. That, and I think the whole "any song is instantly better if it's Pearl Jam playing it" is a foolish way to approach music.
im guessing i like the song more than you, but yeah, it remind me of Bad Religion, which is great for me.
Thats why i agree with you, seems a lot of the comments of " yeah this ruuules" are just because this is a pearl jam song.

But again, we are all PJ fans, not BR ones so...whatever.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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evenslow wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
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theplatypus wrote:I know this is very cynical of me, but I can't help but think that some people are kind of forcing themselves to like this song. I think if you presented this same song with a different singer (say a Bob Mould or a Greg? Graffin) to a bunch of Pearl Jam fans, most of them would go "meh."
Not only that, but if everything about this song remained unchanged, including the music, Eddie's voice, etc., and you were to hear this song for the first time and the band Pearl Jam never existed, people would think "meh."
You could say that about a majority of songs on all of their albums.
That's true -- and that's a reflection of how mediocre a lot of them are and yet people think they're deserving of songs of the year.
Totally agreed. AND if you just left the song as is, but humans didn't have ears and alligators made music, people would scrawl something on their hand like Helen Keller and then the alligators would eat them.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Birds in Hell wrote:
theplatypus wrote:That, and I think the whole "any song is instantly better if it's Pearl Jam playing it" is a foolish way to approach music.
If you really like Pearl Jam, I think that's a perfectly valid approach.

(see my longer post on the previous page)
I'm not sure if it's good, but I do think it's inevitable. If I know PJ in and out and hear their version of a song vs. a version by a band I've never heard before, the PJ version will be more accessible to me.

And PJ has always been a good gateway drug; if this gets more people actually listening to stuff like Husker Du instead of shrugging off PJ's punk stuff, that's a great thing to me.
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