Soon Forget vs. Light Years vs. Rival

digster · Post by **digster** » Fri March 17, 2017 5:46 pm

Where Binaural is in the catalog changes, but I can't imagine it going below #2 or #3 in their discography; personally, I just think there's too many of their greatest songs in one place to consider it any differently.

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Fri March 17, 2017 5:54 pm

strat and I had this conversation yesterday. I think it is pertinent to this convo too.

PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Strat wrote:
PHATJ wrote:Guys, Binaural is so awesome. The MM brackets just further confirmed this for me. That's all for now.
Its number 1 in my book by a light year.
I only have Vitalogy ahead of Binaural.
That'll change.
I don't know about that. Vitalogy is pretty perfect. But Binaural used to sit near the bottom of the pile for me and it has grown in esteem like crazy over the last 10 years, so I guess anything is possible. That being said, I don't think Binaural can quite get to where I would rank Vitalogy in relation to all other bands. I think Vitalogy is an all time great record that holds its own with any great album by any band. Though I love Binaural, I'm not sure I'll ever feel that way about it.

Post by **epilogue** » Fri March 17, 2017 5:56 pm

Yeah, Vitalogy is my second favorite album of all time. By any/all artist(s). I can't imagine Pearl Jam will ever surpass that one, for me.

LoathedVermin72 · Post by **LoathedVermin72** » Fri March 17, 2017 5:59 pm

Vitalogy might be my least favorite pre-PRAMG PJ album. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

LoathedVermin72 · Post by **LoathedVermin72** » Fri March 17, 2017 6:00 pm

durdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, Vitalogy is my second favorite album of all time. By any/all artist(s). I can't imagine Pearl Jam will ever surpass that one, for me.

I thought RA was your favorite PJ album?

Post by **epilogue** » Fri March 17, 2017 6:01 pm

LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:Yeah, Vitalogy is my second favorite album of all time. By any/all artist(s). I can't imagine Pearl Jam will ever surpass that one, for me.
I thought RA was your favorite PJ album?

#2. It used to be in third but I just recently promoted it above Ten.

darth_vedder · Post by **darth_vedder** » Fri March 17, 2017 6:05 pm

tragabigzanda wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Rival is a contender for best Binaural song. Rival, Sleight of Hand, and Insignificance are probably my top 3. What a damn fine album Binaural is.
So good!

I think I'd put NAIS in my top three with Sleight of Hand and Insignificance. But Rival would be a close fourth.
Sometimes I wonder if Binaural will ever replace No Code as my favorite PJ album. It and it's outtakes are all so good.
Have you listened to the Deluxe version available on this site? It's sort of a game changer.

Yup, it's excellent. Love the Blake mixes. I think it's the final product vs what could have been that keeps it from that top spot. I don't want to get into a retracking debate or anything, but if Sad and Fatal make Binaural, it would probably be #1.

tragabigzanda · Post by **tragabigzanda** » Fri March 17, 2017 6:17 pm

darth_vedder wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:Rival is a contender for best Binaural song. Rival, Sleight of Hand, and Insignificance are probably my top 3. What a damn fine album Binaural is.
So good!

I think I'd put NAIS in my top three with Sleight of Hand and Insignificance. But Rival would be a close fourth.
Sometimes I wonder if Binaural will ever replace No Code as my favorite PJ album. It and it's outtakes are all so good.
Have you listened to the Deluxe version available on this site? It's sort of a game changer.
Yup, it's excellent. Love the Blake mixes. I think it's the final product vs what could have been that keeps it from that top spot. I don't want to get into a retracking debate or anything, but if Sad and Fatal make Binaural, it would probably be #1.

Yea. Minus the one-two punch of Parting Ways and Education at the end (two of my least favorite PJ songs), I think the Deluxe version takes the album to another level entirely. This run is a monster:

08 Light Years
09 Of The Girl
10 Thin Air
11 Nothing As It Seems
12 Fatal
13 Sleight Of Hand

digster · Post by **digster** » Fri March 17, 2017 6:47 pm

I always felt like that original retracking is way better in theory than in practice, at least for me. Binaural just feels like it's building to something throughout; that second half of the record is intense, and probably a better run of music than anything the band had done prior.

Post by **stip** » Fri March 17, 2017 8:37 pm

digster wrote:I always felt like that original retracking is way better in theory than in practice, at least for me. Binaural just feels like it's building to something throughout; that second half of the record is intense, and probably a better run of music than anything the band had done prior.

until it is dethroned by the Life Wasted - World Wide Suicide - Comatose run, am I right?

LoathedVermin72 · Post by **LoathedVermin72** » Fri March 17, 2017 8:44 pm

stip wrote:
digster wrote:I always felt like that original retracking is way better in theory than in practice, at least for me. Binaural just feels like it's building to something throughout; that second half of the record is intense, and probably a better run of music than anything the band had done prior.
until it is dethroned by the Life Wasted - World Wide Suicide - Comatose run, am I right?

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Fri March 17, 2017 8:50 pm

stip wrote:
digster wrote:I always felt like that original retracking is way better in theory than in practice, at least for me. Binaural just feels like it's building to something throughout; that second half of the record is intense, and probably a better run of music than anything the band had done prior.
until it is dethroned by the Life Wasted - World Wide Suicide - Comatose run, am I right?

Life Wasted sucks. WWS is pure shit. Comatose is below average, but tolerable. I know you love these three, stip, but I'll sure as shit never understand why.

Post by **stip** » Fri March 17, 2017 9:53 pm

I'm sure there's a three thousand word post on it somewhere.

Birds in Hell · Post by **Birds in Hell** » Fri March 17, 2017 9:56 pm

The earlier, withdrawn Binaural tracklisting flows so much better to me, I can't listen to the album any other way.

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Fri March 17, 2017 10:00 pm

stip wrote:I'm sure there's a three thousand word post on it somewhere.

Oh I know, and I've read it. I'll still never get it.

p.s. I still love ya, stip. I'm glad we all have varying opinions, it's what makes talking about PJ 15 years after their prime still interesting.

digster · Post by **digster** » Fri March 17, 2017 10:16 pm

stip wrote:
digster wrote:I always felt like that original retracking is way better in theory than in practice, at least for me. Binaural just feels like it's building to something throughout; that second half of the record is intense, and probably a better run of music than anything the band had done prior.
until it is dethroned by the Life Wasted - World Wide Suicide - Comatose run, am I right?

That run does get more shit than I think it deserves. None of them are perfect, but it's a solid start. The second half of that record is where it runs into the ditch.

PHATJ · Post by **PHATJ** » Fri March 17, 2017 10:29 pm

digster wrote:
stip wrote:
digster wrote:I always felt like that original retracking is way better in theory than in practice, at least for me. Binaural just feels like it's building to something throughout; that second half of the record is intense, and probably a better run of music than anything the band had done prior.
until it is dethroned by the Life Wasted - World Wide Suicide - Comatose run, am I right?
That run does get more shit than I think it deserves. None of them are perfect, but it's a solid start. The second half of that record is where it runs into the ditch.

I really love the run of songs Marker-Comeback. Severed Hand is okay too, I guess.

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