Rival vs. Grievance

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Rival vs. Grievance

Rival
28
53%
Grievance
25
47%
 
Total votes: 53

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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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If I could vote for Rival twice, I would.
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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16 to 13? You bastards :evil:
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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Rival
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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Still haven't voted. Better give these a listen
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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its rival. what a marvelous song
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Good job stip
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stip wrote:its rival. what a marvelous song
Seriously.

Grievance is really good.

Then you hear Rival.

It's amongst their best.

Let's go all the way.
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I find it pretty incredible how so many of PJ's best songs are grouped together on the second half of Binaural. But I'll give a reluctant vote to Rival. It's harrowing and heartbreaking in equal measures. It keeps the spirit of Binaural while adding some swagger to the final half. The contrast between the music and the message is all the more discordant.
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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Grievance just to (nearly) tie it up.

2 goodies here.
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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I'm actually surprised how close the voting is on this one.

Rival. Hands down. These songs are in different leagues. And only one should be here now, let alone advance.
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durdencommatyler wrote:I'm actually surprised how close the voting is on this one.

Rival. Hands down. These songs are in different leagues. And only one should be here now, let alone advance.
at least we can agree that both these songs are better than lowlight and no wau
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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stip wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:I'm actually surprised how close the voting is on this one.

Rival. Hands down. These songs are in different leagues. And only one should be here now, let alone advance.
at least we can agree that both these songs are better than lowlight and no wau
No, Stip. Actually we can not. Low Light and No Way are both better than both of these songs. But at least Rival comes close.
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Post by guestT »

surprised to see so much rival love here. i love it, but it's always seemed a bit incomplete to me, like it ends a minute too early. love that main riff, though. i felt so proud when i learned to play that on guitar.

grievance gets my vote.
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I listened to both of these this morning and was surprised how tentative both of the studio versions sounded -- "Grievance" certainly more so, but even "Rival" felt a bit underconfident compared to some of the 2000 tour versions. I love the songs on Binaural and even like a lot of the production choices but it's one of the few albums where I almost overwhelmingly prefer every song live. The performances just feel so much tighter (on the 2000 shows, at least).

Anyway "Rival" is an easy vote for me here, as I expected it would be. "Grievance" is great but it's never been individually special to me, where "Rival" just hits that sweet spot every time. An immaculately arranged song with some real harmonically askew guitar parts. Stone was really firing on all cylinders during this era.
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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ugh
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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wth, this got close
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Grievance is amazing as fuck and rival is cool as fuck.

I can't decide.
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it's an Eddie vs Stone matchup
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Re: Rival vs. Grievance

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:wth, this got close
Right? Crazy.
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