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This weekend should be good with 6 of the top 7 teams playing each other.
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Huge win tonight for the Gophers over Illinois. Who's doubting that Minnesota is for real now?
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Great game for Minnesota last night. Assembly Hall is a tough place in which to play. And the way Minnesota played last night, I'm not sure they wouldn't have beat the best from the Illini teams from 1988-1989 and 2005-2006.

On a side, non-Big 10 related note, the end of regulation in the Kansas/Iowa State infuriated me. When will coaches learn that, if you're up by 3 with under 10 seconds to go and the other team is bringing the ball down the court, you need to foul? I cannot believe how many coaches still refuse to do this in those situations. And because of Iowa State's coach's idiocy, they blew a chance to beat the No. 6 team in the country on its home floor. They deserved more in that game.
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For as great as Minnesota played against Illinois on Wednesday, Indiana is doing the same to the Gophers on Saturday. The Hoosiers are showing why they were #1 to start the season. They are really putting it to Minnesota. Indiana shot 66% from the field and 64% from 3-point range in the first half. The Gophers just haven't been able to hang with that. The game has been as intense as I can remember a regular season game being. I heart the Big10.
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Michigan laid an egg in the first half today and couldn't fight back. They really lacked some composure in the last three minutes I thought as well. They could have easily stolen that game but settled for ill advised three point attempts.

Such is the Big Ten this year...
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January 14, 2013


BIG TEN POWER RANKINGS

1. Indiana (15-1, 3-0 Big Ten)

The Hoosiers had a big week. The week started out on a good note with an easy 23 point win over Penn State. On Saturday Indiana welcomed #8 Minnesota to Assembly Hall in what figured to be a difficult game. Indiana blew the lid off the arena in the first half shooting 66% from the field and 64% from behind the arc. The combination of their brilliant shooting and Minnesota's sloppy ball handling (12 turnovers) led to a staggering 23 point halftime lead. Indiana found the second half much more difficult as the Gophers mounted a strong comeback, but in the end the lead proved too large to lose. The Hoosiers face the Big10's only other team without a conference loss on Tuesday when they welcome Wisconsin to town.


2. Michigan (16-1, 3-1 Big Ten)

When #1 Duke lost on Saturday to #20 North Carolina State, the #1 ranking in the country was left wide open for the taking. #2 Michigan was on the proverbial doorstep. Needing a win on the road at #15 Ohio State to remain the only unbeaten team in Division I men's basketball and to clinch the (likely unanimous) #1 ranking in the country, the Wolverines came up three points short in their quest. The road doesn't get any easier for Michigan as they are set to travel to Williams Arena on Thursday to face Minnesota.


3. Minnesota (15-2, 3-1 Big Ten)

The Gophers faced a daunting task as the past week began. On Wednesday Minnesota began a brutal stretch of games that has them facing off against #12 Illinois (on the road), #5 Indiana (on the road) and #2 Michigan (at home) in consecutive games. The trip to Illinois got the Gophers off to a good start. Minnesota fought the Illini to a four point half time lead before imposing their will and cruising to an impressive 17 point road win. The second game of the set proved to be a much more difficult challenge. Indiana was ready for the test and gave the Gophers their most difficult game of the season. Minnesota showed grit as they clawed back from a 23 point halftime deficit to get within three points with just 19 seconds remaining in the contest. But the margin proved too large to overcome and the Gophers took their first conference loss. This coming Thursday night Minnesota welcomes Michigan to The Barn in what should be another highly entertaining contest.


4. Ohio State (13-3, 3-1 Big Ten)

The #15 Buckeye's went 2-0 this week. On Tuesday they won a hard fought game on the road, knocking off Purdue in West Lafayette. On Sunday they pulled of a huge victory over #2 Michigan at home in Columbus. These wins have eased the minds of worried OSU fans after the Buckeyes miserable 19 point loss at Illinois last week. Michigan should have had plenty of motivation heading into Sunday's game as the #1 ranking in the country was there for the taking after #1 Duke's loss on Saturday. Motivation or not, Ohio State came to play and took a 12 point lead to the half. As expected the Wolverines mounted a comeback and and came within a shot of taking the lead with 17 seconds left in the game when Trey Burke's jumper rattled in and then out. Buckeye fans breathed a sigh of relief and OSU had their statement win. The coming week will continue to test the mettle of OSU as they travel to #22 Michigan State and welcome the hard nosed Iowa Hawkeyes to Columbus.


5. Michigan State (14-3, 3-1 Big Ten)

Michigan State put up two wins this week. Neither win came with any ease. On Thursday Sparty went into Iowa City and squeaked out a tightly fought game against the Iowa Hawkeyes. Branden Dawson scored 17 points and Keith Appling went 4 for 4 from the line in the final 20 seconds as Michigan State escaped with a three point win. On Sunday Nebraska battled MSU to a much closer game then most expected. The Spartans led by just one point with less then two minutes to play before they finally pulled away to win by 10. Michigan State travels to Penn State this week before a highly anticipated game against Ohio State in East Lansing on Saturday.


6. Wisconsin (12-4, 3-0 Big Ten)

The Badgers are a tough team to figure out. Before their win over #12 Illinois on Saturday, Wisconsin was 0-2 versus ranked teams this season and often looked unimpressive even in victory. The next few weeks will tell the story of Wisconsin's season. The Badgers face ranked teams in eight of their next ten games (the only games against unranked teams are both against Iowa). If Wisconsin plans on staying in the upper half of the Big Ten this is where they will have to be at their best. If they can get through this stretch of games with five wins it could be looked at as a success.


7. Illinois (14-4, 1-3 Big Ten)

Illinois has had a pretty rough start to the Big Ten season. When the schedule opened the Illini were riding pretty high. They were 13-1 and had just been ranked in the top 10. Then came along Purdue, Ohio State, Minnesota and Wisconsin. Three losses in the four games have left people wondering if the strong start to the season was just a mirage. Illinois has two very winnable games this week. They are at home versus Northwestern and then on the road at Nebraska. I know it is still "early" but these feel like must wins. The following week the schedule gets much harder again and Illinois can't afford to dig themselves an even deeper hole.


8. Iowa (12-5, 1-3 Big Ten)

The Hawkeyes seem to be right on the verge of having a very successful season. Their three games to open the Big Ten schedule (vs. #5 Indiana, at #2 Michigan, and vs. #22 Michigan State) were as tough as any team in the conference faced. In two of those games Iowa fell to Indiana by four points, and Michigan State by three points. Iowa followed those nail-biters by walloping Northwestern by 20. This team will surely be the thorn in the side of at least one Big Ten contender this season. They will be put to the test this week when they face off against Wisconsin in Iowa City. I predict a win for the Hawkeys as they begin to make their mark on this Big Ten season.


9. Purdue (8-8, 2-2 Big Ten)

The Boilermakers had a predictable week. They put up a quality effort before falling in a 10 point loss at home to #15 Ohio State and easily handled an over matched Penn State team in an 18 point home win. Purdue has shown an ability to beat decent teams on their home floor (they knocked off the then #11 Illinois at home to open the Big Ten season), but they are far too inconsistent to regularly give top teams much trouble. The upcoming week has Purdue traveling to Nebraska in what should prove to be a tight game, followed by a non-conference match up against West Virginia.


10. Northwestern (10-7, 1-3 Big Ten)

Northwestern has had a slew of injuries that have made an average team a poor team. Their lone win in the Big Ten came against bottom feeder Penn State. The Wildcats next five games don't show a lot of room for optimism. They will travel to Illinois this week and face a team that has struggled as of late and will be desperate for a win. They then get Indiana at home in a game that seems nearly unwinnable. Things don't get easier as the schedule unfolds. Northwesten's next games include Minnesota at home and then Nebraska (admittedly, this is a potentially winnable game) and Michigan on the road.


11. Nebraska (9-8, 0-4 Big Ten)

Like most teams in the conference, Nebraska has faced a difficult conference schedule. Their best conference showings to date have been a six point loss at home to Wisconsin and a 10 point loss at Michigan State. In their most recent game the Huskers battled to the end and trailed by just one point with less then two minutes to play. Nebraska travels to Purdue this week and then gets Penn State at home (a game I predict will be their first conference win of the season).


12. Penn State (8-8, 0-4 Big Ten)

The Nittany Lions round out my conference rankings. It looks like it will be a long shot for Penn State to win more then two or three games in the Big Ten this year. Their most competitive conference game to this point has been a nine point loss to Wisconsin. Their three other losses have come by and average margin of 15.67 points. Games this week against Michigan State and Nebraska leave little hope as they will both be played on the road. It will definitely be a long season in State College.
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Looks like it could be same old Illinois again. Granted winning at Wisconsin is difficult as it is, but Illinois looked terrible.

I was excited about the Ohio State win, but that offense in the second half was terrible. Looked like the Kansas and Duke games all over again. Thomas has to get the ball inside more often. He can do a lot of damage in there.

Too bad the schedule isn't as exciting this week. Only a couple of good games coming up.

Wisconsin @ Indiana (I expect the Hoosiers to blow them out)
Michigan @ Minnesota (Should be a good one)
Ohio St @ Michigan St (I think the Spartans win this one)
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Chris_H_2 wrote:It's really hard to win on the road during conference play, and we'll see our fair share of upsets throughout the season.
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Joesanity wrote:Looks like it could be same old Illinois again. Granted winning at Wisconsin is difficult as it is, but Illinois looked terrible.

I was excited about the Ohio State win, but that offense in the second half was terrible. Looked like the Kansas and Duke games all over again. Thomas has to get the ball inside more often. He can do a lot of damage in there.

Too bad the schedule isn't as exciting this week. Only a couple of good games coming up.

Wisconsin @ Indiana (I expect the Hoosiers to blow them out)
Michigan @ Minnesota (Should be a good one)
Ohio St @ Michigan St (I think the Spartans win this one)
I think Illinois is an above average team, but they are clearly not a great team. Winning at Wisconsin has historically been extremely difficult but I'm still not convinced that this years version of the Badgers is anything more than a little above average themselves. Illinois has two games that they have to win this week (Northwestern and Nebraska). If they lose either of those games the Illini may struggle to be a .500 team in the Big Ten this year.

As far as Ohio State goes, the win over Michigan may have been ugly, but it was still a win over a very good opponent. I have to credit them for that. Ohio State has three losses on the season. Only one of those losses (at Illinois) looks really bad at this point. The losses to Duke and Kansas are certainly forgivable. OSU has a big game on Saturday at Michigan State. With a win there the Buckeyes may look like the Final Four contenders that people thought they were when the season began.
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The new AP Poll was just released and Louisville is the new #1 team in the country. Indiana moved up from #5 to #2 and Michigan fell from #2 to #5. Some really other interesting things happened in the poll this week. Five different teams received first place votes. Louisville (36 votes), Indiana (13), Duke (14), Kansas (1) and Michigan (1) each collected at least on vote. North Carolina State jumped up six places to #14 after knocking off previous #1 Duke. Illinois free fell 11 spots from #12 to #23.

The Big Ten is well represented again with four teams in the top eleven and six teams in the top 25. Wisconsin's strong start to the conference season has yet to convince voters they are anything more then a "nice" team, as they failed to break into the top 25 this week. They did however receive some consideration and are the sixth team listed in the "Others receiving votes" section of the poll.

Big Ten Teams in this weeks AP Top 25:

#2 Indiana
#5 Michigan
#9 Minnesota
#11 Ohio State
#18 Michigan State
#23 Illinois
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It truly wouldn't be a PHATJ thread without some power rankings. :)
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Green Habit wrote:It truly wouldn't be a PHATJ thread without some power rankings. :)
Damn right! :D
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"Gig game" tonight between the co-leaders of the Big Ten, #2 Indiana and Wisconsin. I think tonight is when the reality of the strength of the Big Ten finally hits Wisconsin between the eyes. So far the Badgers have had it pretty easy through the conference schedule playing bottom dwellers Penn State and Nebraska, and dismantling a completely out of sorts Illinois. Tonight things change. Indiana is the real deal. This begins a brutal stretch for Wisconsin that features eight games against ranked teams in their next ten games. I expect the Hoosiers to handle Wisconsin without much trouble. A 15+ point win should be in play tonight.
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PHATJ wrote:"Gig game" tonight between the co-leaders of the Big Ten, #2 Indiana and Wisconsin. I think tonight is when the reality of the strength of the Big Ten finally hits Wisconsin between the eyes. So far the Badgers have had it pretty easy through the conference schedule playing bottom dwellers Penn State and Nebraska, and dismantling a completely out of sorts Illinois. Tonight things change. Indiana is the real deal. This begins a brutal stretch for Wisconsin that features eight games against ranked teams in their next ten games. I expect the Hoosiers to handle Wisconsin without much trouble. A 15+ point win should be in play tonight.

Are you really referring to anyone being a "leader" when most teams have played 3 games?
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PHATJ wrote:"Gig game" tonight between the co-leaders of the Big Ten, #2 Indiana and Wisconsin. I think tonight is when the reality of the strength of the Big Ten finally hits Wisconsin between the eyes. So far the Badgers have had it pretty easy through the conference schedule playing bottom dwellers Penn State and Nebraska, and dismantling a completely out of sorts Illinois. Tonight things change. Indiana is the real deal. This begins a brutal stretch for Wisconsin that features eight games against ranked teams in their next ten games. I expect the Hoosiers to handle Wisconsin without much trouble. A 15+ point win should be in play tonight.

Are you really referring to anyone being a "leader" when most teams have played 3 games?
They ARE co-leaders. Quit your bitching.
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Well, color me shocked! Wisconsin just did what I thought would be nearly impossible for them to do. They went into Bloomington and knocked off Indiana. All the credit in the world goes to the Badgers in a well deserved win. I think it will be impossible for the pollsters to not include this team in the AP top 25 next week. And as for me, I guess I now have to consider Wisconsin to be much more a contender then I ever thought they were before tonight.
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PHATJ wrote:
Green Habit wrote:It truly wouldn't be a PHATJ thread without some power rankings. :)
Damn right! :D
You've done your job, but something else that I just thought of is that this thread won't truly be complete until pearljamminagain reregisters on the new board and tells everyone in this thread why the ACC is going to mop the floor with the Big Ten when it counts.
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Green Habit wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Green Habit wrote:It truly wouldn't be a PHATJ thread without some power rankings. :)
Damn right! :D
You've done your job, but something else that I just thought of is that this thread won't truly be complete until pearljamminagain reregisters on the new board and tells everyone in this thread why the ACC is going to mop the floor with the Big Ten when it counts.
Remember when he posted a picture of himself shooting free throws during a UNC game wearing warm-up pants?
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
PHATJ wrote:
Green Habit wrote:It truly wouldn't be a PHATJ thread without some power rankings. :)
Damn right! :D
You've done your job, but something else that I just thought of is that this thread won't truly be complete until pearljamminagain reregisters on the new board and tells everyone in this thread why the ACC is going to mop the floor with the Big Ten when it counts.
Remember when he posted a picture of himself shooting free throws during a UNC game wearing warm-up pants?
Actually, I do not. Does this pic still exist somewhere?

I do remember that he posted his address in a bold attempt at a bet against you that he never honored:

http://archive.theskyiscrape.com/viewto ... =8&t=11854
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