dimejinky99 wrote:And he praises everyone he's about to interview. Every time.
If you want to see ed be reeeeally consciously awkward, the jools holland 'interview' is a must.[/quote
That interview was pretty bad though, why was jools so intent on talking about the Damn avocado. Is it a fruit my ass.
Think ev was annoyed about that but more about the inevitable 'here's a clip of you as young guys playing that same song you're about to play' than anything.
Tbf, he didn't have a great deal to go on by way of conversation with Avocado.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
He 'demanded' Glen and mar bring their oscars for their appearance.
They brought fake $2 plastic ones from a store in Hollywood.
He was not impressed at all. Had a shit fit in fact.
I am in the like it/don't love it crowd on this one. There are some good things going on in it, but I was hoping that they would show us this "experimental" stuff, unless channeling some Motorhead is just that. I am like Platypus in that I have cooled on Pearl Jam considerably since 2006. I agree with alot of what he says in that they seem to have lost that thoughtful, introspective side which I loved from No Code to Riot Act. I still believe Binaural is their most experimental record to date, one which they were really striving for something and missed it somewhat when they put out the final tracking and not the original tracking which was posted on the official site prior to release.
darthvedder81 wrote:That's a great review of MYM. I still don't like the song at all but I thought his assessment of it and the band as a whole was spot on. I thought it was a little harsh on the S/T though. There's a lot more of experimenting PJ going on there than with Backspacer . Overall I like every album the band has released so some of the criticisms are lost on me. I do worry sometimes that the more recent media exposure has taken something away from my love of the band. Back in the late 90's to early 00's they were so elusive that anytime you heard an inkling of an a interview or appearance of some kind it was such a big deal. Now that the band is with the times embracing social media it's taken away a lot of the mystery.
Maybe you can take comfort in the fact that they do this terribly?
so true.
Yeah, just because mike gets on twitter occasionally to pimp a crohns charity, or post a studio picture doesn't mean they've "embraced" social media. They are all terrible to follow on twitter because they add absolutely nothing. They don't seem to interact at all.
I was referring more to the official PJ Twitter/Facebook/Instragram accounts than the band member accounts but yeah, they aren't very good with that stuff.
The fact that PJ got on the internet at all surprised me back when that started happening. You had the Sony music page for all those years but when pearljam.com launched that was kind of a breakthrough. Computers/technology seemed so antithetical to the band ethos at that time. Not saying that's a good thing it's just a different world now.
After a few days, I haven't had a desire to listen to it again. Which means it doesn't bode well for me in terms of staying power. I certainly don't hate it, but it just doesn't grab me like some of their other stuff does. With that said, it still is better than anything I have heard on Backspacer (save one song).
stonefury wrote:After a few days, I haven't had a desire to listen to it again. Which means it doesn't bode well for me in terms of staying power. I certainly don't hate it, but it just doesn't grab me like some of their other stuff does. With that said, it still is better than anything I have heard on Backspacer (save one song).
I don't think it's fair to overplay a song like this and expect it to stay interesting. However good it is, it's still limited by the nature of the kind of song it is. It'll probably be mixed on the album with stuff with more staying power, but I don't think that should count against it.
RisingTides wrote:There is more kindness on the internet than we would care to admit to ourselves. Sometimes we are so afraid of falling victim to a ruse, we miss out on actual opportunities.
theplatypus wrote:I can't wait for the Pearl Jam Porn Parody album.
Real talk: I had a dream last night where 10C implemented a "Mind Your Manners" parody contest, and McParadigm won with a song about "Full House" called "Mind Your Tanners." Then stip wrote a review of it. I'm not making this up.
LetMeSleep wrote:and what the hell is "Mind You Manners"as a phrase? It's DAD rock that doesn't want his kids to know he ever swore.
it's actually quite a clever phrase, given what the song is about. But you're right. If only Eddie had the song writing chops to have thrown the word fuck in there more often. Then we would have had a masterpiece.
Well that's not actually what I said though I can see how you read it. I meant more by attitude than profanity.
Stip, would you care to enlighten me as to why this is a clever phrase? I'm not certain that the phrase necessarily aligns itself with who the song is rallying against. It seems more of a conservative, Cressida driving middle upper class comment. And when I hear it it may as well be "and they keep playing....Snakes and Ladders." It just seems toothless and flippant. Like someone has smashed your windscreen and you say steady on, mind your manners.
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BurtReynolds wrote:We are Motorhead and we play rock and roll.
This "is it punk?" debate is getting kinda stupid.
Agreed. Labels are supposed to be useful descriptors, not something to squabble over. However, if someone tries to petulantly call me out on an error, I'm going to try my darnedest to educate and enlighten by hammering the point into oblivion with equal petulance.
Problem being if you've put the nail in the wrong place you really shouldn't keep hammering.
While a Western guitar motif lost on the swings drum bass fusion, get your own thoughts into the subconscious often forgotten. "Pendulum" is a sweeping soul from the ballast.
LetMeSleep wrote:and what the hell is "Mind You Manners"as a phrase? It's DAD rock that doesn't want his kids to know he ever swore.
it's actually quite a clever phrase, given what the song is about. But you're right. If only Eddie had the song writing chops to have thrown the word fuck in there more often. Then we would have had a masterpiece.
Well that's not actually what I said though I can see how you read it. I meant more by attitude than profanity.
Stip, would you care to enlighten me as to why this is a clever phrase? I'm not certain that the phrase necessarily aligns itself with who the song is rallying against. It seems more of a conservative, Cressida driving middle upper class comment. And when I hear it it may as well be "and they keep playing....Snakes and Ladders." It just seems toothless and flippant. Like someone has smashed your windscreen and you say steady on, mind your manners.
It's an angry song, but a restrained anger, and so the hold yourself back/mind your manners, line is appropriate there. But the song is also a railing against people who tell you to listen, not question, not rock the boat, not challenge anything, who see protest, free thought, etc. as rude and disruptive and not something nice people do. And so the mind your manners works two ways--either as a flippant using of that langauge and staid acceptance against the people who advocate for it (I'd need to see the lyrics in front of me to see if it is used that way in the song) as something they are being hostile towards people who use this phrase as an excuse to not have to think. they are being totally sarcastic in that case. Imagine the lyric was 'God has a plan' and they were shouting it out. You'd understand the meaning within the context of that song. MYM is being used the same way, but I think it is actually a much more clever phrase because it is less immediately obvious.
But basically I think you may be missing the point. Everything you say about it:
It seems more of a conservative, Cressida driving middle upper class comment.
is entirely what the use of that phrase is reacting against
If it isn't, then nothing makes sense to me anymore.
