Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden
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I love To Pimp a Butterfly and so far I'm loving DAMN.
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When I say it's more commercial or accessible I'm not insulting the album. I'm saying something I think is self-evident and is being proven by the incredible sales/streaming figures coming out. Obviously everybody disagrees with my commercial/accessible statement, so it apparently isn't self-evident or even necessarily true. Maybe I'm really, really wrong about it.
But whether I am or am not, I'm not saying that to denegrate DAMN. or to argue that TPAB is better than it because it's more ambitious. They're different. And so far I think they're both great. I'm just saying I think the intention behind this album is very different and that part of it is to show that he can make the mega hit record, too. Yes, he's sold well in the past and critics love him, and huge numbers of hip hop fans worship him. But this album he's outselling/streaming Drake right now. Or at least on pace to. I think the ONLY argument I've seen in the last 2-3 years against him being the King is sales. And this album looks like it's dispatching that nonsense.
I feel like he's coming with a track like LOVE. to be like "I can do a Drake song better than Drake AND I can do DNA and XXX and TPAB and drake can't do any of that. This is his "The crown's been mine and now I'm taking away anything anybody can say to the contrary."
Further, when I say that this is a good album to blast in the car or whatever I said, that doesn't mean it isn't also of artistic value. This album is clearly better than TPAB for rolling down your windows and cranking it as loud as you can. I'm thrilled to have another Kendrick album like that. That's not an insult or a limit on it's use, it's just a difference I see between the two. Maybe I'm wrong about that too. Idk.
But whether I am or am not, I'm not saying that to denegrate DAMN. or to argue that TPAB is better than it because it's more ambitious. They're different. And so far I think they're both great. I'm just saying I think the intention behind this album is very different and that part of it is to show that he can make the mega hit record, too. Yes, he's sold well in the past and critics love him, and huge numbers of hip hop fans worship him. But this album he's outselling/streaming Drake right now. Or at least on pace to. I think the ONLY argument I've seen in the last 2-3 years against him being the King is sales. And this album looks like it's dispatching that nonsense.
I feel like he's coming with a track like LOVE. to be like "I can do a Drake song better than Drake AND I can do DNA and XXX and TPAB and drake can't do any of that. This is his "The crown's been mine and now I'm taking away anything anybody can say to the contrary."
Further, when I say that this is a good album to blast in the car or whatever I said, that doesn't mean it isn't also of artistic value. This album is clearly better than TPAB for rolling down your windows and cranking it as loud as you can. I'm thrilled to have another Kendrick album like that. That's not an insult or a limit on it's use, it's just a difference I see between the two. Maybe I'm wrong about that too. Idk.
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Kenny is a sell out and new album sucks, got it.
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Finally somebody gets me!Kaius wrote:Kenny is a sell out and new album sucks, got it.
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One time I just enjoyed an album bc I liked the songs. It was a pretty cool experience.
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Just the once, I hope -- sounds terribly mundane.bodysnatcher wrote:One time I just enjoyed an album bc I liked the songs. It was a pretty cool experience.
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Fake news! Stop the lies! Sad!bodysnatcher wrote:One time I just enjoyed an album bc I liked the songs. It was a pretty cool experience.
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What they hear from me
Would make 'em highlight my simplest lines
Would make 'em highlight my simplest lines
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Ain't no black power when your baby killed by a coward
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Fuuuuuck4/5 wrote:Ain't no black power when your baby killed by a coward
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Yestragabigzanda wrote:Just laid down, closed my eyes, and listened to the whole album with headphones last night. Holy cow this thing is incredible and perfect.
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Was listening to this earlier and realized the bolded lyric kinda encapsulates what I was trying to say. This is a "put motherfuckers on notice" album.'Cause most of y'all ain't real
Most of y'all gon' squeal
Most of y'all just envy, but jealousy get you killed
Most of y'all throw rocks and try to hide your hand
Just say his name and I promise that you'll see Candyman
Because it's all in your eyes, most of y'all tell lies
Most of y'all don't fade, most of y'all been advised
Last LP I tried to lift the black artists
But it's a difference between black artists and wack artists
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That's a pretty bad verse TBH
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Needs more bleached assholes
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Starting to get a clearer thematic handle on this album. It's really great. He's beginning to approach Kanye territory in the way he uses irony, contrast, and interconnecting narratives between songs to establish and clarify his themes. Wonderful stuff.
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Also, I take back what I said about LUST, LOVE, and FEAR. They are essential tracks. The lyrics in FEAR are stunning.
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