Let the drummer debate continue!

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Well?

Dave K
1
2%
Matt C (the first)
0
No votes
Dave A
14
29%
Jimmy S
1
2%
Jack I
23
47%
Matt C (the second)
10
20%
 
Total votes: 49

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't think I've ever heard a Sammy Van Halen song.
I remember when "Poundcake" was a huge fucking deal because he used a power drill on his guitar. And I haven't heard it in 25 years, which goes to show what a huge impact it had.
Hahaha holy shit this is so lame

For the younger folks out there, that was exactly why Nirvana happened. I remember that Van Hagar album was huge that year, along with those two bloated Guns N Roses albums. They were everywhere, like a goddamn recurring nightmare. Not so much anymore.
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't think I've ever heard a Sammy Van Halen song.
I remember when "Poundcake" was a huge fucking deal because he used a power drill on his guitar. And I haven't heard it in 25 years, which goes to show what a huge impact it had.
Hahaha holy shit this is so lame

For the younger folks out there, that was exactly why Nirvana happened. I remember that Van Hagar album was huge that year, along with those two bloated Guns N Roses albums. They were everywhere, like a goddamn recurring nightmare. Not so much anymore.
Fuck you. UYI 1 and 2 are great. Not even in the same bullshit shit that was Van Hagar
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Strat wrote:Fuck you. UYI 1 and 2 are great. Not even in the same bullshit shit that was Van Hagar
I wasn't putting them in the same artistic bag. Just that they were fucking annoying with one 8 minute single after another. It was like in 1988 with that Def Leppard album. Every song was a goddamn single and played endlessly on MTV and it never ended.
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
Strat wrote:Fuck you. UYI 1 and 2 are great. Not even in the same bullshit shit that was Van Hagar
I wasn't putting them in the same artistic bag. Just that they were fucking annoying with one 8 minute single after another. It was like in 1988 with that Def Leppard album. Every song was a goddamn single and played endlessly on MTV and it never ended.
ah the good ol' days.
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As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Dont you wish that kind of shit got tv play these days too? Maybe we wouldnt have Donald Trump as president if GnR releaed August Rain along when Metallica released Unforgiven 4
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Strat wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Dont you wish that kind of shit got tv play these days too? Maybe we wouldnt have Donald Trump as president if GnR releaed August Rain along when Metallica released Unforgiven 4
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LetMeSleep wrote:
Strat wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Dont you wish that kind of shit got tv play these days too? Maybe we wouldnt have Donald Trump as president if GnR releaed August Rain along when Metallica released Unforgiven 4
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Summer of '91.. Skid Row had the first #1 album with sales recorded through Digalog. MTV made a huge deal about it. It was interesting watching music change right in front of our eyes. I still think R.E.M. was a big part of it that never gets mainstream credit for it. "Out Of Time" was huge that year. Back then, I called them College Music.
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't think I've ever heard a Sammy Van Halen song.
I remember when "Poundcake" was a huge fucking deal because he used a power drill on his guitar. And I haven't heard it in 25 years, which goes to show what a huge impact it had.
Hahaha holy shit this is so lame

For the younger folks out there, that was exactly why Nirvana happened. I remember that Van Hagar album was huge that year, along with those two bloated Guns N Roses albums. They were everywhere, like a goddamn recurring nightmare. Not so much anymore.
But Mike McCready loved that shit, didn't he?
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:As if it wasn't enough to suffer through one version of "Don't Cry", they used to air both versions and people would cream over their artistic bravado and argue about which version was better. Then they released "November Rain" and I heard that every 15 minutes.
Speaking of, the guy who directed that Poundcake vid is the same guy who directed Don't Cry and November Rain.

Also, Wake Me Up Before You Go Go.

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To anyone who said Matt Cameron lacks groove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_fFwV-xIk
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not sure if this related to the topic, but theres the isolated drum tracks from Dave K on youtube, now i'm wondering about isolated drums for the other albums
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Very cool. The whole Hall of Fame thing and stuff like this makes me completely reassess Dave K. I kind still associated Ten with Dave A. b/c he was the guy touring it. Turns out Dave K was funky in his own right - underrated!
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evenslow wrote:Very cool. The whole Hall of Fame thing and stuff like this makes me completely reassess Dave K. I kind still associated Ten with Dave A. b/c he was the guy touring it. Turns out Dave K was funky in his own right - underrated!
Totally. It may be an unpopular PJ opinion, but this is why I kinda like the Ten redux. The drums really pop on it kinda giving the album a live feel. Porch is a really good example of what a great drummer Krusen is.
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Dave K. looks like he might be the nicest of all the drummers.
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lecherouslittlestump wrote:To anyone who said Matt Cameron lacks groove

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_fFwV-xIk
Correct.

Yea, i think its mostly on the band as they dont write really groovy tunes anymore. No space for nothing in many of their songs these days as well as no subtlety in their older songs anymore. Though i do get that Matt C doesn't really bring much to a song like Animal....
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darth_vedder wrote:
evenslow wrote:Very cool. The whole Hall of Fame thing and stuff like this makes me completely reassess Dave K. I kind still associated Ten with Dave A. b/c he was the guy touring it. Turns out Dave K was funky in his own right - underrated!
Totally. It may be an unpopular PJ opinion, but this is why I kinda like the Ten redux. The drums really pop on it kinda giving the album a live feel. Porch is a really good example of what a great drummer Krusen is.
Let the Krusenssaince begin!!
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Groove. Groove groove groove.

Groove.
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