RIP Chris Cornell 1964 - 2017

[Pearlhawk]

Ok, I feel semi-gross sharing this as it's the very definition of gossip. But there is a ton here that is spot-on especially when you consider it was a blind item posted back in January. Combine it with yesterday's mother-in-law unhinged tweets and it's kind of chilling. If you believe even half of this, holy shit.

Spoiler: show

This rock star is not from LA and had deep ties to his home town and lots and lots of friends in the music scene there. The girl he married also worked as his band’s manager, and was instrumental in getting the band signed. She also worked with a number of other bands and helped them get signed and also kept them from getting completely screwed over by record companies. She was well respected on their home turf for protecting the musicians from there and also for being a pretty decent human being.

Anyway, early on, this band was very successful both critically and financially. Right before the band hit it big, the rock star and his wife had a child. This couple were so down to earth that they even remained living in the same small house they had purchased early in their relationship, and planned to raise their child in that environment, as to not lose touch with what was real. Of course, things didn’t go as planned. The rock star started to enjoy his success and the stuff that came with it. He started to become rude, obnoxious and greedy. As is often the case, he changed. His band mates noticed the change and didn’t like it either. This resulted in a lot of fighting in the band- and eventually the band broke up over this difference in values. There was no reason given for the breakup, but anyone who had been paying attention could see what was happening there. It was the classic story of the lead singer who gets a fat head, corrupted values and thinks they no longer need their band or the people who were with them in the lean times anymore. At the same time this happened, the marriage between the singer and his hardworking wife started to unravel. There was cheating and also the singer was away more and more and was not spending any time with the wife or their child.

The singer eventually met another woman from a family notorious for being greedy social climbers. People who knew this woman and her family from years ago say that her mother planned for years to marry her off to someone rich and famous and was “training” her from a young age with that goal in mind. (A version of PMK before her time.) The training apparently worked because once this woman had this singer in her cross hairs, she was determined to break up his family and was successful in doing so. No one close to the singer could figure out what he saw in her, though. She was rude, mean, and not very attractive. Her lack of personal charm also made her appear even uglier and friends around him had funny nicknames for her, one of which was ‘troll’. This woman sealed the deal by getting pregnant very quickly so that a divorce would be initiated by the long suffering wife. While destroying this guy’s marriage wasn’t enough, the new girlfriend also convinced the singer that his estranged wife (who remember was also his manager) had cheated him and his band mates out of millions of dollars. He bought this hook line and sinker and not only was the divorce bitter but other litigation dragged on for years, and the accusations of financial mismanagement by the wife publicly smeared her reputation. The singer tried to drag his former band mates into the litigation fray as well– even though they knew the estranged wife had not done anything deliberately wrong. The ex wife was dragged though court to the point where she was bordering on bankruptcy when things were finally settled. The new girlfriend was just hell bent on dragging the ex wife through the mud. Not long after things were settled legally, the singer and the girlfriend finally got married. One of the attendees of the marriage ceremony also saw the true colors of the bride and expressed concern about her and her family’s shady vibe to people around the singer. Sadly, she died herself under mysterious circumstances later.

The singer’s new wife gave birth to several children pretty quickly. She also became involved in management decisions for the singer’s career and finances. Rumor has it that a series of poor decisions were made there including getting the singer to invest a large sum of money into a business run by her family. Bad idea. Meanwhile, the child with the first wife didn’t see the singer very much, because the new wife made sure he was touring and involved in as many moneymaking projects as possible. The singer also showed off the “new” family publicly with no mention of the child back home. Fans noticed. When the former wife was forced to go to court about parenting related issues, the singer chose to litigate her more and even accused her again of stealing his belongings. The ex wife has stayed true to her roots and has not spoken out publicly against the singer, even though she’s been bullied and smeared by him and his new wife for years. She is just trying to raise her child in peace. The irony in all this is that this singer also tries to fund raise for children’s charities. The people around him laugh behind his back at the hypocrisy, considering the situation with the child from the first marriage. The best part in all this is that the current rumor is that he’s met someone else and will be dumping his current wife soon. What is even funnier is that his current wife and her family are so financially shady that the singer has no idea how badly he’s been ripped off. Yet. So its looking like karma is real and the wrongly accused former wife is going to be laughing her ass off when the details about the current wife and her family’s financial shenanigans come to light. It will get ugly too. The current wife and her family will not go quietly and I would not be surprised if she exposes and blames the singer publicly for smearing and wrongly accusing his former wife.

That was a horrendous thing to read.

Okay, I've been skimming this, and I need a little help. What "blind item posted back in January"?

[Bammer]

Article about Eddie and Chris watching the Kingdome being blown up with pictures.


https://campingontuesdays.com/crossing- ... 510332d7ce

17 years ago...

[verb_to_trust]

Has anyone been stationed at LAX to keep an eye out for Pearl Jam members?

[tragabigzanda]

[dprival78]

cnn:

Laffitte said he spoke to Cornell on a daily basis and on the afternoon of his death, they were discussing plans for him to perform at the 2017 Global Citizens Music Festival this September in New York. He sounded upbeat when he talked about plans for the future, according to Laffitte.
"He was just really excited about this specific idea that we were going to do. He said, 'We aren't just going to make pop history with this one, brother. We are going to make real history,'" Laffitte said on Thursday. "I would say the last couple of months, he was as optimistic and happy as I can ever recall him ... He was so excited about all these things and a new record we were going to put out in the fall."

[dprival78]

Ok, I feel semi-gross sharing this as it's the very definition of gossip. But there is a ton here that is spot-on especially when you consider it was a blind item posted back in January. Combine it with yesterday's mother-in-law unhinged tweets and it's kind of chilling. If you believe even half of this, holy shit.

Spoiler: show

This rock star is not from LA and had deep ties to his home town and lots and lots of friends in the music scene there. The girl he married also worked as his band’s manager, and was instrumental in getting the band signed. She also worked with a number of other bands and helped them get signed and also kept them from getting completely screwed over by record companies. She was well respected on their home turf for protecting the musicians from there and also for being a pretty decent human being.

Anyway, early on, this band was very successful both critically and financially. Right before the band hit it big, the rock star and his wife had a child. This couple were so down to earth that they even remained living in the same small house they had purchased early in their relationship, and planned to raise their child in that environment, as to not lose touch with what was real. Of course, things didn’t go as planned. The rock star started to enjoy his success and the stuff that came with it. He started to become rude, obnoxious and greedy. As is often the case, he changed. His band mates noticed the change and didn’t like it either. This resulted in a lot of fighting in the band- and eventually the band broke up over this difference in values. There was no reason given for the breakup, but anyone who had been paying attention could see what was happening there. It was the classic story of the lead singer who gets a fat head, corrupted values and thinks they no longer need their band or the people who were with them in the lean times anymore. At the same time this happened, the marriage between the singer and his hardworking wife started to unravel. There was cheating and also the singer was away more and more and was not spending any time with the wife or their child.

The singer eventually met another woman from a family notorious for being greedy social climbers. People who knew this woman and her family from years ago say that her mother planned for years to marry her off to someone rich and famous and was “training” her from a young age with that goal in mind. (A version of PMK before her time.) The training apparently worked because once this woman had this singer in her cross hairs, she was determined to break up his family and was successful in doing so. No one close to the singer could figure out what he saw in her, though. She was rude, mean, and not very attractive. Her lack of personal charm also made her appear even uglier and friends around him had funny nicknames for her, one of which was ‘troll’. This woman sealed the deal by getting pregnant very quickly so that a divorce would be initiated by the long suffering wife. While destroying this guy’s marriage wasn’t enough, the new girlfriend also convinced the singer that his estranged wife (who remember was also his manager) had cheated him and his band mates out of millions of dollars. He bought this hook line and sinker and not only was the divorce bitter but other litigation dragged on for years, and the accusations of financial mismanagement by the wife publicly smeared her reputation. The singer tried to drag his former band mates into the litigation fray as well– even though they knew the estranged wife had not done anything deliberately wrong. The ex wife was dragged though court to the point where she was bordering on bankruptcy when things were finally settled. The new girlfriend was just hell bent on dragging the ex wife through the mud. Not long after things were settled legally, the singer and the girlfriend finally got married. One of the attendees of the marriage ceremony also saw the true colors of the bride and expressed concern about her and her family’s shady vibe to people around the singer. Sadly, she died herself under mysterious circumstances later.

The singer’s new wife gave birth to several children pretty quickly. She also became involved in management decisions for the singer’s career and finances. Rumor has it that a series of poor decisions were made there including getting the singer to invest a large sum of money into a business run by her family. Bad idea. Meanwhile, the child with the first wife didn’t see the singer very much, because the new wife made sure he was touring and involved in as many moneymaking projects as possible. The singer also showed off the “new” family publicly with no mention of the child back home. Fans noticed. When the former wife was forced to go to court about parenting related issues, the singer chose to litigate her more and even accused her again of stealing his belongings. The ex wife has stayed true to her roots and has not spoken out publicly against the singer, even though she’s been bullied and smeared by him and his new wife for years. She is just trying to raise her child in peace. The irony in all this is that this singer also tries to fund raise for children’s charities. The people around him laugh behind his back at the hypocrisy, considering the situation with the child from the first marriage. The best part in all this is that the current rumor is that he’s met someone else and will be dumping his current wife soon. What is even funnier is that his current wife and her family are so financially shady that the singer has no idea how badly he’s been ripped off. Yet. So its looking like karma is real and the wrongly accused former wife is going to be laughing her ass off when the details about the current wife and her family’s financial shenanigans come to light. It will get ugly too. The current wife and her family will not go quietly and I would not be surprised if she exposes and blames the singer publicly for smearing and wrongly accusing his former wife.

That was a horrendous thing to read.

Okay, I've been skimming this, and I need a little help. What "blind item posted back in January"?

yea, where was this from?

[verb_to_trust]

cnn:

Laffitte said he spoke to Cornell on a daily basis and on the afternoon of his death, they were discussing plans for him to perform at the 2017 Global Citizens Music Festival this September in New York. He sounded upbeat when he talked about plans for the future, according to Laffitte.
"He was just really excited about this specific idea that we were going to do. He said, 'We aren't just going to make pop history with this one, brother. We are going to make real history,'" Laffitte said on Thursday. "I would say the last couple of months, he was as optimistic and happy as I can ever recall him ... He was so excited about all these things and a new record we were going to put out in the fall."

Things could have been going so well he felt comfortable enough to let his guard down and start using again.

[Chris_H_2]

Has anyone been stationed at LAX to keep an eye out for Pearl Jam members?

Dave A is there.

that would create a minor shitstorm if he was there representing the band

[Habitman]

Ed's been very quiet... he seemed to look up to Chris. Like a little brother/big brother relationship. Must be in such despair.

[dprival78]

you read that "blind post" and the mother in law rant.. and it kind of starts to make sense why eddie could be staying away from all that..

[tragabigzanda]

[dprival78]

"blind post" source: http://crazydaysandnights.net/2017/01/t ... riend.html

interesting comment left there, 4 months ago:

"May 2017 be the year of karma."

*cue twilight zone music*

[lecherouslittlestump]

"blind post" source: http://crazydaysandnights.net/2017/01/t ... riend.html

interesting comment left there, 4 months ago:

"May 2017 be the year of karma."

*cue twilight zone music*

Next Alternative Nation article - "Was Chris Cornell MURDERED?"

[dprival78]

"blind post" source: http://crazydaysandnights.net/2017/01/t ... riend.html

interesting comment left there, 4 months ago:

"May 2017 be the year of karma."

*cue twilight zone music*

Next Alternative Nation article - "Was Chris Cornell MURDERED?"

CLICK CLICK CLICK

[Tuolumne]

People are focused on Ed's well being, But I think the people even more shattered and who people should be worried about are Matt and Mike. Matt just cause he's Chris' longtime bandmate and he was there. Mike because he is the one in the band with a history of addiction and health issues. Mike seems to be doing fantastic these days, this has to really shake him up, maybe make him think that things aren't always as solid as you think when you have that sort of history. More than anyone among CCs musical orbit, I hope these 2 are okay. Of course, Stone and Jeff go super far back with them as well. Ed is actually the newcomer between all of these guys but of course has just as much to owe to CC as anyone. This situation certainly has to be much harder than the Cobain's suicide. Cobain was someone they respected, but he was just some guy that was sort of an outsider to the regular Seattle scene. I think Cobain was tough on those in his band and family, and then people like Sonic Youth and Melvins. CC was more integral within Seattle itself, the most integral. It will be an interesting few months seeing how this effects people and their own artistic trajectory.

With the new info coming out, this really seems like it could be a one-off relapse situation where he may have had some major hole he fell into for a short moment that was super intense. It's really very very different from Cobain, where there were interventions upon interventions and was just out of his gourde for a long time.

[Hatfield]

I have read through some of these posts and thought, "you inconsiderate assholes". Well, now it's my turn to fill that role.

When I read his wife's open letter, this stood out as odd:

"You had always said I saved you, that you wouldn't be alive if it were not for me."

Kind of like Trump thanking Comey for thrice telling him he wasn't under investigation in his termination letter to him.

[verb_to_trust]

Can we blame Vicky for Scream?

[doone]

Vulture is hit or miss with me, but I found these two articles to be solid reads for anyone whose interested.
It was nice to read about his career and what it meant in one writers opinion. It was also good to get a take on why we do what what we do, in scouring for answers, when as has been mentioned, sadly, we don't know shit...but want to....


http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/201 ... tions.html

http://www.vulture.com/2017/05/chris-co ... psrc=nymag

Thanks for these links.

How many lives were pulled, even temporarily, out of the abyss by his words? Too many to count, and no doubt more will be with each passing day. It’s absolutely terrible that Chris Cornell is dead. There is no way around that. But can anyone whose songs keep saving people, even after his death, truly pass out of this world?

I've regained some perspective, I give up on the whole social media thing his wife and MiL seem hell bent on creating, I don't care who does and doesn't go to his funeral, I'm just going to honor his memory by listening to his music.

[ilpazzo]

....and here's your initial guest list....

It seems no one from PJ (minus Matt) was in attendance.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/colum ... oundgarden

Also, as a side note... the more I think about that "blind post" I can't tell if I think it is someone with inside, intimate knowledge, or a piece of really bad fan-fic... It could honestly go either way.

[BurtReynolds]

PJ is missing what is probably going to be the social event of the season.