Chuck Klosterman

[epilogue]

'Being Zack Morris' and 'Sulking with Lisa Loeb on the Ice Planet Hoth' are probably my two favorites so far. 'Appetite for Replication' would round out the top 3.

[TremorJam]

My favorite Klosterman books are Fargo Rock City and Killing Yourself To Live.

[epilogue]

So, I just listened to Chuck's episode of Celebration Rock where he discusses Weezer and I think I might be falling in love with him. I have a lot to learn from this guy.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[epilogue]

I'm normally a big Klosterman fan, have enjoyed most of his books and various podcasts. But I just couldn't get into But What If We're Wrong; something about it just struck me as too precious.

Interesting. That was going to be the next one I looked into.

[Jorge]

What did he say about Weezer

[epilogue]

A lot of really interesting things, actually. The host of the show as trying to make a point that Weezer is pandering to their audience now by trying to make records that sound like the records that the fans like. But Chuck kinda dismantles every argument the host throws at him. He's a lot less pretentious and far more thoughtful than I expected.

I thought the episode would be a pile-on episode. I thought it would be full of snark and self-congratulatory criticism but Chuck really does a good job defending Weezer and Rivers and trying to get to the heart of what pandering really means. He also has this great bit about fans irrational expectations, and about the dichotomy of Pinkerton. There's something in there about how terrible it must be to be told that the greatest thing you'll ever achieve is also the worst thing that ever happened to you. It's a really great listen.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[BurtReynolds]

He sounds awful.

[epilogue]

A lot of really interesting things, actually. The host of the show as trying to make a point that Weezer is pandering to their audience now by trying to make records that sound like the records that the fans like. But Chuck kinda dismantles every argument the host throws at him. He's a lot less pretentious and far more thoughtful than I expected.

I thought the episode would be a pile-on episode. I thought it would be full of snark and self-congratulatory criticism but Chuck really does a good job defending Weezer and Rivers and trying to get to the heart of what pandering really means.

Klosterman always treats fandom with genuine respect. He speaks to the shared experience of being a fan with the proper acknowledgment that the fandom exists because art brings people together and helps us define ourselves as humans. But then he also does a great job of not taking himself too seriously. Glad you've latched on to him, durds.

I had really mixed feelings about his Sex and Coco-Puffs book (parts I adored, others felt like criticism in a vacuum to me). But since then I've been getting more into his stuff: interviews and shorter essays, etc. And I really think I love where this guy is coming from most of the time. Obviously, I don't agree with everything he says and I don't need/expect to.

What are your favorites of his, trag?

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[epilogue]

A lot of really interesting things, actually. The host of the show as trying to make a point that Weezer is pandering to their audience now by trying to make records that sound like the records that the fans like. But Chuck kinda dismantles every argument the host throws at him. He's a lot less pretentious and far more thoughtful than I expected.

I thought the episode would be a pile-on episode. I thought it would be full of snark and self-congratulatory criticism but Chuck really does a good job defending Weezer and Rivers and trying to get to the heart of what pandering really means.

Klosterman always treats fandom with genuine respect. He speaks to the shared experience of being a fan with the proper acknowledgment that the fandom exists because art brings people together and helps us define ourselves as humans. But then he also does a great job of not taking himself too seriously. Glad you've latched on to him, durds.

I had really mixed feelings about his Sex and Coco-Puffs book (parts I adored, others felt like criticism in a vacuum to me). But since then I've been getting more into his stuff: interviews and shorter essays, etc. And I really think I love where this guy is coming from most of the time. Obviously, I don't agree with everything he says and I don't need/expect to.

What are your favorites of his, trag?

Eating the Dinosaur or IV. My favorite individual pieces are the ones that explore a subculture I'm not too familiar with. Like, I don't care about football, yet I love his writing on the subject because it helps me understand why others love the sport so deeply.

Right on. Very cool. I think Strat (maybe?) also recommended Eating the Dinosaur once upon a time. Maybe I'll check that one out next. Thanks, man.

[swan]

Check out his appearance on Bill Simmons' podcast from last week. They start off with a good discussion of Cornell's death that also includes a decent amount about PJ/EV.

[epilogue]

Check out his appearance on Bill Simmons' podcast from last week. They start off with a good discussion of Cornell's death that also includes a decent amount about PJ/EV.

Just added it to the pod-catcher. Thanks, friend.

[tragabigzanda]

Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

[epilogue]

Check out his appearance on Bill Simmons' podcast from last week. They start off with a good discussion of Cornell's death that also includes a decent amount about PJ/EV.

Just added it to the pod-catcher. Thanks, friend.

This was a pretty good listen. Even for someone like me who just doesn't care about listening to people talk about sports.

[epilogue]

This episode of Celebration Rock Podcast w/ Chuck is fascinating (Chuck Klosterman On How Rock Will Be Remembered in 2316)

https://audioboom.com/posts/4935391-epi ... ed-in-2316

This Chuck Klosterman is sorta smart sometimes.

[epilogue]

"It's not like people will be like, 'Well, how do I feel about rock music? I better go to Cleveland and sort this out,' you know."