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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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Kinda damages my opinion of Claire Danes as a perfect angelic being more than anything.
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Anders wrote:
theplatypus wrote:Anyway, you shouldn't let your encyclopedic knowledge of celebrities' personal lives affect your opinion of their work too much. I operate under the assumption that most of them are at least somewhat shitty people. It really shouldn't matter, unless they raped or killed someone.
Cheating on and leaving your 7-month pregnant wife is not far behind though.
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ahahahahahha
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I'm sure she had her reasons. I still love her.
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theplatypus wrote:
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theplatypus wrote:Anyway, you shouldn't let your encyclopedic knowledge of celebrities' personal lives affect your opinion of their work too much. I operate under the assumption that most of them are at least somewhat shitty people. It really shouldn't matter, unless they raped or killed someone.
Cheating on and leaving your 7-month pregnant wife is not far behind though.
Uh I think it's pretty far behind from both those things. It's a scumbag move no doubt, but not even in the same ballpark.
At least she didn't kill herself, or have him murdered. Although I am sure she is scarred for life.
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What are you talking about?!?
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theplatypus wrote:What are you talking about?!?
It's a terrible crime against the wife.
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Yeah it's a shitty thing to do
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I have no idea what the fuck is going on in here anymore.
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Anders made it weird
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Billy Crudup fucked an alien.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Billy Crudup fucked an alien.
That guy will fuck anything.
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Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.
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So is Ridley doing another one?
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
Rangi Guy wrote:Aside from stupid people doing stupid things
Am I the only person who has no problem with them doing stuff like sticking their heads in the eggs? It's an Alien movie. They basically have to do that or there's no film. IMO that's kind of the price of admission to horror/creature flicks like this--someone has to do something very stupid to get the ball rolling.
Nah. Competent heroes make the monster more impressive. I want a crew that does everything right and still can't handle it because it's just too awesome.

One stupid decision is forgivable, maybe two, but constant idiocy is unacceptable.

It also helps if the characters do something stupid because of some demonstrated character flaw like arrogance or inexperience. But otherwise intelligent characters acting stupid just to get the plot lurching to the next setpiece is shit writing.
I actually wrote this before I saw the movie, and I still agree with it, but I agree this one was a little worse in that area as well.

I really enjoyed the middle, David-centric part of this a lot, but my favorite part of it and Prometheus has really been some of the designs. When they first go into the ruins with David is just really impressive.
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This movie is exactly a Lore episode of Star Trek, but with gore.

They beam down to the planet as soon as they get the oxygen all-clear. No intelligence gathering necessary.

One android is less human, but more moral and...somehow...actually more human. The other, I mean...is just Lore. He's just Lore.

Alien genocide happens off camera, before the episode starts.

90% of the crew actively pursues death with every choice they make.

There isn't enough Patrick Stewart.
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It was worth watching just for Fassbender tho
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What a predictable damn ending. Like, I predicted it before they even left the planet. So disappointing
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Just watched this tonight and from the perspective of someone who isn’t a full-on xenomorph fanboy I thought it was great. Fassbender was the standout for sure. Would have preferred a non-cgi alien but it didn’t ruin anything for me overall.
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