Lightning Bolt: the official album thread

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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Everyone gives inside job a hard time. I think he did a good job of getting or teying to get into eds headspace and writing lyrics out that ed would want to sing.

Got it as an opener once in Dublin. Not my favourite opener ever but it's a pretty good song.
Poor mike gets a tough time over it.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I agree. It's not as horrible as I make it out to be, just for fun.

My main issue with it is that because the lyrics are horribly vague and clichéd, my enjoyment of it was very short-lived. Once you've heard the song a few times, there's nothing catching there. Nice music with blah to decorate it.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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i loved it when it came out..and yeah, the lyrics are cliché, but i actually like them.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I can see them working for some people, and for me they did for a while.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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It's a better song musically and lyrically than a lot of ST. wanna talk about failed attempts and lyrical clichés? Gone, Marker, unemployable...and on and on
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:I agree. It's not as horrible as I make it out to be, just for fun.

My main issue with it is that because the lyrics are horribly vague and clichéd, my enjoyment of it was very short-lived. Once you've heard the song a few times, there's nothing catching there. Nice music with blah to decorate it.
Yeah, I kind of just don't forgive them for tarnishing one of my favorite pieces of music they've ever written. Ditto with Army Reserve, actually. Not that Ed necessarily would have done a whole lot better. Anyway, I guess this isn't the thread for those thoughts.
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dimejinky99 wrote:It's a better song musically and lyrically than a lot of ST. wanna talk about failed attempts and lyrical clichés? Gone, Marker, unemployable...and on and on
The whole album suffered from dodgy lyrics, but I think Inside Job and Big Wave take the title. :)
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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Jaeti wrote:
harmless wrote:I agree. It's not as horrible as I make it out to be, just for fun.

My main issue with it is that because the lyrics are horribly vague and clichéd, my enjoyment of it was very short-lived. Once you've heard the song a few times, there's nothing catching there. Nice music with blah to decorate it.
Yeah, I kind of just don't forgive them for tarnishing one of my favorite pieces of music they've ever written. Ditto with Army Reserve, actually. Not that Ed necessarily would have done a whole lot better. Anyway, I guess this isn't the thread for those thoughts.
It might just be true that take off Inside Job and Big Wave, and S/T becomes a pretty good album. I don't think most of the lyrics are *bad*, just too detailed and journalistic / prosaic.
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Riot Act contains some truly creative political songs, lyrically. S/T is just full of plain-speaking lyrics which are ultimately quite boring.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:It's a better song musically and lyrically than a lot of ST. wanna talk about failed attempts and lyrical clichés? Gone, Marker, unemployable...and on and on
Indeed.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:
Jaeti wrote:I want an album where all lyrics are written by Mike.
How I choose to write is how I suck.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:I think the two songs featured in the tour clip probably are us being given a clue of the two extremes featured on the record.
It's a possibility.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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My least favorite part of Inside Job is actually the bass line.
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dimejinky99 wrote:It's a better song musically and lyrically than a lot of ST. wanna talk about failed attempts and lyrical clichés? Gone, Marker, unemployable...and on and on
Other song's imperfections are not Inside Job's victories. You're more than welcome to like the track, chief, but the lyrics still suck beyond all possible measure.

We all have songs we like that we fully realize have bad lyrics.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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southp wrote:
harmless wrote:I'd find an album with lots of fast punkish stuff mingled with slower, atmospheric stuff and nothing in between, really fascinating. I don't need any mid tempo blandness and I hope we get no Unthought Knowns (or that if we do, they're better).
I'll take more gems and rhinestones any day!
Add me to team gems and rhinestones. A catchy metal/punk number like MYM has a place at the table. If Lightning Bolt has atmosphere I'm on board. If Ed wants to hit the emotional high points with an Unthought Known type song he has my permission.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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McParadigm wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:It's a better song musically and lyrically than a lot of ST. wanna talk about failed attempts and lyrical clichés? Gone, Marker, unemployable...and on and on
Other song's imperfections are not Inside Job's victories. You're more than welcome to like the track, chief, but the lyrics still suck beyond all possible measure.

We all have songs we like that we fully realize have bad lyrics.
I just dot place as much importance In this stuff as others, I guess.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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I can understand feeling that way, too.
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MemoFromTurner wrote:
southp wrote:
harmless wrote:I'd find an album with lots of fast punkish stuff mingled with slower, atmospheric stuff and nothing in between, really fascinating. I don't need any mid tempo blandness and I hope we get no Unthought Knowns (or that if we do, they're better).
I'll take more gems and rhinestones any day!
Add me to team gems and rhinestones. A catchy metal/punk number like MYM has a place at the table. If Lightning Bolt has atmosphere I'm on board. If Ed wants to hit the emotional high points with an Unthought Known type song he has my permission.
I'm all for emotional high points and if this album does, great. I just don't think Unthought Known did.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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dimejinky99 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:It's a better song musically and lyrically than a lot of ST. wanna talk about failed attempts and lyrical clichés? Gone, Marker, unemployable...and on and on
Other song's imperfections are not Inside Job's victories. You're more than welcome to like the track, chief, but the lyrics still suck beyond all possible measure.

We all have songs we like that we fully realize have bad lyrics.
I just dot place as much importance In this stuff as others, I guess.
I'm definitely that way, lyrics seldom have a huge impact on me one way or the other, but I have my limits.
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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

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harmless wrote:I agree. It's not as horrible as I make it out to be, just for fun.

My main issue with it is that because the lyrics are horribly vague and clichéd, my enjoyment of it was very short-lived. Once you've heard the song a few times, there's nothing catching there. Nice music with blah to decorate it.
Inside Job have been nice as a long instrumental. In truth, Ed should have had his lyrics for the entire album returned to him with the feedback: "Try again. P.S. Don't let Mike anywhere near prose. Sincerely, your fans."
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