The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

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Sessions didn't even respond, when Comey said it was 'inappropriate' for Trump to have asked Sessions to leave the room
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This summary is so complete, and so provocative, that I have to assume tomorrow will just be questions clarifying bits of it. There's no room left for any major surprises.
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Jesus. That's not even a summary.
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Ive never seen anything like what's been happening the last couple of weeks. I have some memories of my parents talking about Watergate, as it was happening and it felt like the country was going to collapse. This is much, much worse, yet it doesn't seem to matter to people around here . i hear literally no one discussing it.
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oh brave new world that has such people in it
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cutuphalfdead wrote:oh brave new world that has such people in it
Thanks Obama!
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cutuphalfdead wrote:oh brave new world that has such people in it
I just read that. There were parts where I was like, "Did someone read this in high school and look at it as a blueprint for what to do instead of a warning about what not to do?"
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malice wrote:Ive never seen anything like what's been happening the last couple of weeks. I have some memories of my parents talking about Watergate, as it was happening and it felt like the country was going to collapse. This is much, much worse, yet it doesn't seem to matter to people around here . i hear literally no one discussing it.
I still think Bush and the second Iraq war was a much bigger deal, and was far more dangerous and illegal. The dems weren't as hell bent on stopping Dubya though.
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BurtReynolds wrote:Hysterical retweets from the RM brain trust aside, the only news here is that "All four intelligence leaders testifying in Senate say they are unaware of any attempt by White House to influence Russia investigation."

Result: nothing will become of this.
That's not what was said, tho.

There was a carefully phrased message about not "feeling" pressured. When asked if the president actually had asked them to do anything, they refused to answer.

These are carefully phrased responses, and with reason.
Yeah, this. It was awkward to watch. Feeling pressured doesn't necessarily have to much to do with the request, although I'm admittedly not enough of a legal eagle to know what the actual obstruction of justice standard is. Does it need to be taken seriously by the recipient, or is it enough that the accused person has that intent? In other words, if everyone thinks Trump is a blowhard, then does it not count even if it would meet the standard otherwise?

I agree nothing is going to happen here (or with any of this, for that matter), but that's due to partisanship and tribalism, not the content of anything that actually happened.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
malice wrote:Ive never seen anything like what's been happening the last couple of weeks. I have some memories of my parents talking about Watergate, as it was happening and it felt like the country was going to collapse. This is much, much worse, yet it doesn't seem to matter to people around here . i hear literally no one discussing it.
I still think Bush and the second Iraq war was a much bigger deal, and was far more dangerous and illegal. The dems weren't as hell bent on stopping Dubya though.
I agree, however, the country's mindset was still revolving around the destruction of the world trade center, imo
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This has quite a sporting event feel.

http://wtop.com/dc/2017/06/14136931/slide/1/

Has trump been tweeting today or did they keep him busy?
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I can't get over how rabid the Republicans would be if the shoe was on the other foot but now? Eh, move along, nothing to see here, just Liberal Left conspiracy theories.
I can't get over how one of the biggest complaints I heard about Obama was how he was unexperienced and naive in politics and diplomacy; that he would be taken advantage of and laughed at while lowering the United States of America brand on the world stage.
The other thing is that how rudderless the GOP seem right now. They have the executive & legislative branches but other than what should have been Merrick's SC seat what do they have to show for it?
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Nothing will come of this.
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Anders wrote:Nothing will come of this.
Unfortunately, yes. It looks like it might actually help give him cover. And what's worse is there will be 7 pages of retweets in this thread before it's over.
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How do you not read his statements, along with trumps tweets, and know for certain its obstruction of justice?
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and its still an ongoing investigation
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Strat wrote:How do you not read his statements, along with trumps tweets, and know for certain its obstruction of justice?
That's not how the Washington works.
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washing machine wrote:
Strat wrote:How do you not read his statements, along with trumps tweets, and know for certain its obstruction of justice?
That's not how the Washington works.
But trump said he was going to get government working again
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