The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

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at what point does Sessions flip the script and prosecute Trump?
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96583UP wrote:at what point does Sessions flip the script and prosecute Trump?
After the next time he tries to humiliate him.
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Strat wrote:How do you not read his statements, along with trumps tweets, and know for certain its obstruction of justice?
True, the descriptions are fairly damning. It would take an awful lot to read the section on Flynn, and provided Comey's testimony is accepted as honest, not read that as an attempt to stop the investigation.

That being said, it's a Republican Congress, and I think that's going to overwhelm everything else.
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digster wrote:
Strat wrote:How do you not read his statements, along with trumps tweets, and know for certain its obstruction of justice?
True, the descriptions are fairly damning. It would take an awful lot to read the section on Flynn, and provided Comey's testimony is accepted as honest, not read that as an attempt to stop the investigation.

That being said, it's a Republican Congress, and I think that's going to overwhelm everything else.
Right but at some point can't the FBI, CIA etc bring the charges? Congress doesn't have the last call do they? Honest question. Learn me
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I'm by no means an expert, but when it comes to impeachment or those matters, it's Congress, while the FBI is conducting an investigation that seems more and more like it's a criminal investigation. It seems to be centered on people associated with Trump, rather than Trump himself, but even if he was found to be culpable, whether for "collusion" or for any type of cover up or obstruction, it's incredibly unlikely that he would ever be charged or prosecuted. Some believe a president is actually immune from prosecution (and it would be his own Justice Department prosecuting him if they did).

In short, really the worst that could happen to Trump would be impeachment, which is Congress, and I think the odds of enough Republicans rolling over on him to make that a reality would be next to nil.
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digster wrote:I'm by no means an expert, but when it comes to impeachment or those matters, it's Congress, while the FBI is conducting an investigation that seems more and more like it's a criminal investigation. It seems to be centered on people associated with Trump, rather than Trump himself, but even if he was found to be culpable, whether for "collusion" or for any type of cover up or obstruction, it's incredibly unlikely that he would ever be charged or prosecuted. Some believe a president is actually immune from prosecution (and it would be his own Justice Department prosecuting him if they did).

In short, really the worst that could happen to Trump would be impeachment, which is Congress, and I think the odds of enough Republicans rolling over on him to make that a reality would be next to nil.
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IM not even sure why the republican congress is behind Trump. They would be far better off having Pence in office. With pence they would be able to push their entire agenda with far less fanfare. Shit, they might even be able to get things done if Trump were out of the way. At what point do they get fed up with nothing happening because he's a lunatic?
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My guess (and it's only a guess) is that they would see impeachment as a body blow they couldn't recover from in the midterms and the next election, regardless of if they have Pence. Also, I think there could be irrationality in play. Trump's the leader, and they want to protect the leader, even if it's not necessarily sensible in the long run.
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digster wrote:My guess (and it's only a guess) is that they would see impeachment as a body blow they couldn't recover from in the midterms and the next election, regardless of if they have Pence. Also, I think there could be irrationality in play. Trump's the leader, and they want to protect the leader, even if it's not necessarily sensible in the long run.
How do these people sleep at night? Do their wives still touch them? Or maybe they dont touch them and that is why we are.....where we are?
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Strat wrote:How do these people sleep at night?
On a bed made of money.
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digster wrote:
Strat wrote:How do you not read his statements, along with trumps tweets, and know for certain its obstruction of justice?
True, the descriptions are fairly damning. It would take an awful lot to read the section on Flynn, and provided Comey's testimony is accepted as honest, not read that as an attempt to stop the investigation.

That being said, it's a Republican Congress, and I think that's going to overwhelm everything else.
I think there is an honest question here if Trump even understood what he was doing in those conversations. He seems to think government operates like a commercial business in Manhatten, in which such an action would be acceptable. It further illustrates his unfitness though.
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I also I am highly tempted to head to U street since some of the bars are opening early, to watch the millennial meltdown in person when Comey says he felt pressured and some red team senator changes the subject.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:How do these people sleep at night?
On a bed made of money.
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Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:How do these people sleep at night?
On a bed made of money.
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That's the joke.
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:How do these people sleep at night?
On a bed made of money.
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That's the joke.

How did you not respond to that with this..

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@SkitchP wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Strat wrote:How do these people sleep at night?
On a bed made of money.
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That's the joke.

How did you not respond to that with this..

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WHEN IT IS LITERALLY THE SAME FUCKING CHARACTER YOU DO
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nope, you don't
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cutuphalfdead wrote:nope, you don't

No, I do.
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Assuming the dems take back congress in 2018, is there any reason why they couldn't begin the impeachment process then?
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