Healthcare Thread (really "Sickcare" in America)

[Chris_H_2]

"not ready to vote" doesn't seem like an unequivocal "no"

$100 he votes "yes"

[bune]

*checks bank account*

"I'm not ready to vote yet"

*checks bank account, sees extra zero*

"OK, I'm ready now."

[i got bugs]

Don't know how to even go about figuring this out via google, hoping someone in this thread can steer me in the right direction..

So my gf's mother recently had an aneurysm rupture.. she survived the surgery, but has been in the hospital/nursing rehab home since (almost 2 months)

The insurance stopped paying to keep her in the hospital, and now wants to stop paying for her in the home.. they say she isn't making enough progress (which is debatable)..

My question is, can they do this?? (I thought they couldn't drop someone due to a preexisting condition).. the family is in contact with medicaid (she isn't old enough but I'd think she qualifies as disabled), you'd figure she'd qualify but I'm not sure.. should the family be in contact with an attorney?? Do they have a shot??

[LoathedVermin72]

I literally hope the entire GOP dies

[Electromatic]

And there again not one legislator gives a damn about lowering the actual cost of healthcare.

Health Insurance is bullshit.

[Electromatic]

Don't know how to even go about figuring this out via google, hoping someone in this thread can steer me in the right direction..

So my gf's mother recently had an aneurysm rupture.. she survived the surgery, but has been in the hospital/nursing rehab home since (almost 2 months)

The insurance stopped paying to keep her in the hospital, and now wants to stop paying for her in the home.. they say she isn't making enough progress (which is debatable)..

My question is, can they do this?? (I thought they couldn't drop someone due to a preexisting condition).. the family is in contact with medicaid (she isn't old enough but I'd think she qualifies as disabled), you'd figure she'd qualify but I'm not sure.. should the family be in contact with an attorney?? Do they have a shot??

A Healthcare attorney is probably the best option I'd think. Good luck in the process, my best to your GFs mom.

[i got bugs]

Thanks

[Electromatic]

So we're going to basically go back to status quo for a bit, kick the can, stave off cost to govt but let people die, still have a system where we pay 10 times and then what the rest of the world pays and no one is literally or financially healthy. Great Plan.

They took months for this?

[Bi_3]

So we're going to basically go back to status quo for a bit, kick the can, stave off cost to govt but let people die, still have a system where we pay 10 times and then what the rest of the world pays and no one is literally or financially healthy. Great Plan.

They took months for this?

Well, fucking over 350M people while insisting it's good for them isn't easy.

[BurtReynolds]

I don't remember the catastrophic yearly genocide that the US suffered every year before Saint Obama gave us our current system. Damn lamestream media covering it up!


none of this shit is going to work.

[Electromatic]

I don't remember the catastrophic yearly genocide that the US suffered every year before Saint Obama gave us our current system. Damn lamestream media covering it up!


none of this shit is going to work.

Not a fan of the ACA either. At some point, surely someone has to do some cost benefit analysis right?

Oh, you need your knee replaced. That will be $14,000. Why? You could buy a fucking car for $14,000.

You need open heart surgery that will be $50,000 what percentage of people can approach a bill like that and not laugh?

Why the hell does it cost $200,000 or so to get a degree in medicine?

The only people it seems who get to have influence in writing policy are the people making all the money on absurdity. Why even vote anymore?

[B]

Richard Burr's line is always, always busy. Is there not technology that allows one to take messages when they're on the phone?

Fuck, Thom Tillis' staff actually answered the phone today.

[B]

The draft health care legislation released today outlines a number of initiatives that are good for North Carolina. While not perfect, the bill does provide the funding we need to support our most vulnerable North Carolinians. I’m encouraged that it keeps the law protecting people with pre-existing conditions. The legislation also reverses $31 billion in cuts made to Medicaid by Obamacare, extends millions of dollars in funding to our Community Health Centers, and provides $2 billion to the fight against the opioid epidemic.

I don't get it, that's the complete opposite of what's in this bill.

[Simple Torture]

The draft health care legislation released today outlines a number of initiatives that are good for North Carolina. While not perfect, the bill does provide the funding we need to support our most vulnerable North Carolinians. I’m encouraged that it keeps the law protecting people with pre-existing conditions. The legislation also reverses $31 billion in cuts made to Medicaid by Obamacare, extends millions of dollars in funding to our Community Health Centers, and provides $2 billion to the fight against the opioid epidemic.

I don't get it, that's the complete opposite of what's in this bill.

[Monkey_Driven]

So, is this bill going to pass or not.

[B]

Pushed back until after the 4th. That's generally considered bad news for the bill.

[simple schoolboy]

So, if the AHCA fails, then what? Death spiral for insurers in low population states until when?

[Electromatic]

So, if the AHCA fails, then what? Death spiral for insurers in low population states until when?

In general, I think it just gets bad for the bulk of us on employer paid plans especially the big self insured plans. Reduced coverage, higher premiums for less care.


The issue is not really the expansion of medicaid, it's failing to adequately fund all of this spending (they forced it down the road a few years) and that no one at all on any level is interested in reducing the absurd costs of American health care compared to the rest of the globe because the people making all that money are also writing all the rules.

If it passes, we just get more bad legislation. The Democrats forced through their plan with hopes they would win this election to fix the obvious problems, Republicans are trying to force through their plan with the same lofty hopes that they'll be the ones writing the fixes.

Meanwhile, the absurd cost of healthcare is the reason most people at the bottom weren't getting healthcare to begin with and the AHCA passing might lower the premiums a bit for young people but it certainly puts more stress on the people that actually need healthcare many of those are Republican voters so... the issue is going to remain until we wind up with some sort of collapse.

[Bi_3]

So, if the AHCA fails, then what? Death spiral for insurers in low population states until when?

In general, I think it just gets bad for the bulk of us on employer paid plans especially the big self insured plans. Reduced coverage, higher premiums for less care.


The issue is not really the expansion of medicaid, it's failing to adequately fund all of this spending (they forced it down the road a few years) and that no one at all on any level is interested in reducing the absurd costs of American health care compared to the rest of the globe because the people making all that money are also writing all the rules.

If it passes, we just get more bad legislation. The Democrats forced through their plan with hopes they would win this election to fix the obvious problems, Republicans are trying to force through their plan with the same lofty hopes that they'll be the ones writing the fixes.

Meanwhile, the absurd cost of healthcare is the reason most people at the bottom weren't getting healthcare to begin with and the AHCA passing might lower the premiums a bit for young people but it certainly puts more stress on the people that actually need healthcare many of those are Republican voters so... the issue is going to remain until we wind up with some sort of collapse.

It would be insane if, after everything America has accomplished both good and bad, we end up collapsing because we can't agree on who should pay for life saving medical treatments.

[BurtReynolds]

Maybe not the right place to put this, but wondering if anyone had any thoughts?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40462831