HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

[Simple Torture]

I've always assumed that it wasn't really a secret, but just a different interpretation of the relationship depending on which side of the rebellion you were on.

Same. How many people even knew about the "kidnapping"?

Certainly those involved in the wheelings and dealings of marriages--and definitely not the common people. Most probably think Rickard's death was the sole cause of the war.

[Mecca]

Man, what a douchey post.

the chuds... they're becoming self-aware

[stip]

finally all caught up. What a marvelous show.

[Anders]

finally all caught up. What a marvelous show.

The end of last season was amazing.

[stip]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

[Norah]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

Me too. Because it didn't go anywhere.

[Anders]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

Me too. Because it didn't go anywhere.

Can't agree on that. It changed everything in King's Landing.

[Norah]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

Me too. Because it didn't go anywhere.

Can't agree on that. It changed everything in King's Landing.

Until it didn't because they all died at once.

[stip]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

Me too. Because it didn't go anywhere.

Can't agree on that. It changed everything in King's Landing.

Until it didn't because they all died at once.

Wiping out the principal ally of the Lannister's in the process, causing Tommen's suicide, and putting Cersci on the iron throne. That whole story arc was about Cersei, and reinforced and pushed even further both the strengths and weaknesses of her character going into the final act of the series.

[stip]

that was an excellent conclusion, especially as it became clear that, for the High Sparrow, this was still in the end ultimately all about politics rather than faith. And we keep underestimating the ruthlessness of the Lannisters. This was basically the Red Wedding V2.

[Norah]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

Me too. Because it didn't go anywhere.

Can't agree on that. It changed everything in King's Landing.

Until it didn't because they all died at once.

Wiping out the principal ally of the Lannister's in the process, causing Tommen's suicide, and putting Cersci on the iron throne. That whole story arc was about Cersei, and reinforced and pushed even further both the strengths and weaknesses of her character going into the final act of the series.

To me Cersei's story with the faith militant didn't really amount to much. It was a minor inconvenience for her and now she's removed her (local) enemies and can go back to being psycho queen again. Once again, the show-runners have removed consequences and real adversity from the story. If she had to face trial at least it might have knocked her down a peg, and forced her to face some reckoning even if she came out victorious, but nope, she just got them all in the same room and let the deus ex wildfirina take care of her problems.

[Anders]

i was genuinely stunned by the conclusion of the faith militant storyline

Me too. Because it didn't go anywhere.

Can't agree on that. It changed everything in King's Landing.

Until it didn't because they all died at once.

Wiping out the principal ally of the Lannister's in the process, causing Tommen's suicide, and putting Cersci on the iron throne. That whole story arc was about Cersei, and reinforced and pushed even further both the strengths and weaknesses of her character going into the final act of the series.

Exactly.

[Norah]

It was just too easy.

[Norah]

What's the point of creating Robert Strong if he doesn't get to stand for you in the trial by combat?

[Norah]

Also, she was already (practically) on the Iron Throne as Queen Regent. Getting Tommen out of the picture doesn't actually increase her power.

[Norah]

If anything, it weakens her claim.

[Norah]

In fact, with Tommen out of the picture Stannis by rights gets to ascend the Iron Throne even without the incest.

[Anders]

What's the point of creating Robert Strong if he doesn't get to stand for you in the trial by combat?

We don't know the end of that story yet. We will see what happens this coming season.

It does weaken her claim and position, clearing the way for you know who (Daenarys).

[Simple Torture]

In fact, with Tommen out of the picture Stannis by rights gets to ascend the Iron Throne even without the incest.

I've got bad news for you regarding Show Stannis.

[Norah]

In fact, with Tommen out of the picture Stannis by rights gets to ascend the Iron Throne even without the incest.

I've got bad news for you regarding Show Stannis.

God damnit.