Healthcare Thread (really "Sickcare" in America)

[malice]

As far as I know they just voted to debate a reconciliation bill.

that sounds idiotic

[malice]

I have no clue what that means btw. Im an ignorant slob

[doug rr]

i don't know either but I'm gonna let rachel maddow explain it to me now for 58 minutes

[McParadigm]

I just explained it!

[doug rr]

I just explained it!

post it again under a whisky gif

[McParadigm]

Daily Beast:

On Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell was able to effectively persuade his members that it was vital to move forward with debate even without knowing exactly what health care legislation the body was to consider. He is expected to make the same pitch for the final vote: encouraging Republicans to get some, any, bill into a conference committee with the House so that the process can simply continue.

What lawmakers will ultimately vote on is not entirely clear, though Republican aides previewed to The Daily Beast a final product that would repeal the individual and employer mandates as well as the tax on medical device manufacturers while leaving in place Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion. Known as a “skinny repeal,” the legislation, according to the Congressional Budget Office, would still leave an estimated 15 million people uninsured by 2026. But, according to aides, it represents the best possible vehicle—at least at this juncture—for the Senate to move forward.

[McParadigm]

Ends with:

And momentum is now definitively on the Republican Party’s side. Leaders are aiming to finish the process by the end of this week and send a bill to the House, which is scheduled to begin its August recess next week. Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) has pledged that the House would remain in session if the Senate sends over a bill.

“We’re going to stay and finish health care,” Ryan previously said.

[tragabigzanda]

FUCK ICE

[malice]

I just explained it!

I didn't see it, geez

[malice]

I just explained it!

I didn't see it, geez

and now i wish i hadn't now, either

[malice]

I think i hate being american

[doug rr]

I think i hate being american

i have plenty of irish whisky here

[McParadigm]

The Cruz amendment version just went down by seven votes. John "I will not vote for the bill in its current form" McCain voted yes.

[McParadigm]

Here

[McParadigm]

Wow. Up to NINE no votes now.

Nobody expected this version to pass, and this wasn't even exactly a vote on it...but messages are being sent.

[Bi_3]

I think i hate being american

Watching these sacks of shit fail actually make me feel better about it.

[McParadigm]

Very good chance that skinny repeal goes through. I kinda suspect this then leads to a disasterous 5+years that actually make single payer easier to pass, but the path there is ugly.

[McParadigm]

Every conservative seems to think that once the repeal happens, the others will be forced to fall into THEIR preferred replacement approach. Which, of course, only makes compromising with each other less likely to happen.

[doug rr]

Mcp..step away for a bit and go skip some rocks at the docks at dodge park..maybe get a soft serve cone..

[McParadigm]

Mcp..step away for a bit and go skip some rocks at the docks at dodge park..maybe get a soft serve cone..

Not a treats guy, and I just had pretty extensive oral surgery, so I can't drink...especially after a day of stretching my stitches gabbing at the office.