HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:09 pm

malice wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
malice wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:wait those weren't white walkers
That was jaime and the other first men, duh
The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh.
Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king?
No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens.
How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders?
are there ANY far flung theories you've read about that you don't believe?

I've read the books in 2008 and seen the show. It's not so much reading about, as actually reading and seeing for myself. All theories I've believed so far have come true. It's a fantasy series all about such things, where GRRM drops hints all over the place in the books.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:11 pm

malice wrote:i don't have a problem with the book info being introduced, when it's relevant to the show but otherwise it just muddies the plot the show has laid out

It's the same story (just the books have more happening and more characters).

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:11 pm

Eh, they're almost different stories at this point.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:13 pm

Besides, I think Jon is Azor Ahai, not Jamie. The stuff with Tyrion or Jamie being the third head of the dragon (with Jon and Dany, is very interesting).

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:15 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:Eh, they're almost different stories at this point.

Depends a bit on what happens in both of course, but the main story should continue being the same.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:15 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
malice wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:wait those weren't white walkers
That was jaime and the other first men, duh
The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh.
Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king?
No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens.
How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders?
Dany/Jon/
Spoiler: show
fAegon
?

Spoiler: show: I believe Aegon is fake.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:16 pm

Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
malice wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:wait those weren't white walkers
That was jaime and the other first men, duh
The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh.
Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king?
No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens.
How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders?
Dany/Jon/
Spoiler: show
fAegon
?

Spoiler: show
I believe Aegon is fake.

So do I. But

Spoiler: show: just because he's not Aegon Targaryen, son of Rhaegar doesn't mean he doesn't have dragon blood. I think he's a Blackfyre.

malice · Post by **malice** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:19 pm

Anders wrote:
malice wrote:i don't have a problem with the book info being introduced, when it's relevant to the show but otherwise it just muddies the plot the show has laid out
It's the same story (just the books have more happening and more characters).

They aren't the same thing. Just like the lotr movies were not the same. Everyone understands that except you for some reason. The books and the series are no longer interchangeable due to the constraints inherent in the medium of tv vs books

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:20 pm

LOTR book and movie is much closer than ASOIAF/GoT

malice · Post by **malice** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:23 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:LOTR book and movie is much closer than ASOIAF/GoT

They beat the characters and dialogs all to hell in the movies, although the extended versions tried a little more to at least include Tolkien's dialog, even if it was attributed to the wrong characters

Monkey_Driven · Post by **Monkey_Driven** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:25 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:LOTR book and movie is much closer than ASOIAF/GoT

After the first two or three seasons, yes.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:26 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
malice wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:wait those weren't white walkers
That was jaime and the other first men, duh
The Lannisters are of Andal descent, not First Men. Duh.
Do you think it's possible that Tyrion and/or Jamie/Cersei are children of the mad king?
No. We don't need multiple secret Targaryens.
How about the three-headed dragon? Possibly three dragon riders?
Dany/Jon/
Spoiler: show
fAegon
?

Spoiler: show
I believe Aegon is fake.
So do I. But
Spoiler: show
just because he's not Aegon Targaryen, son of Rhaegar doesn't mean he doesn't have dragon blood. I think he's a Blackfyre.

Spoiler: show: You are right, he probably is a Blackfyre.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:29 pm

Monkey_Driven wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:LOTR book and movie is much closer than ASOIAF/GoT
After the first two or three seasons, yes.

The show did a fantastic job through Tywin's death. Then it just fell off a cliff.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:29 pm

malice wrote:
Anders wrote:
malice wrote:i don't have a problem with the book info being introduced, when it's relevant to the show but otherwise it just muddies the plot the show has laid out
It's the same story (just the books have more happening and more characters).
They aren't the same thing. Just like the lotr movies were not the same. Everyone understands that except you for some reason. The books and the series are no longer interchangeable due to the constraints inherent in the medium of tv vs books

I think LOTR basically was the same story. I've read the book (lotr) twice, and seen the movies several times.

Bigger changes here, but not to the main plot with Dany/Jon. At least not yet. Of course the series has gotten a lot further.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:31 pm

Once GRRM is done with ASOIAF, I would love to see an animated series that is 100% true to the books.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:32 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:LOTR book and movie is much closer than ASOIAF/GoT
After the first two or three seasons, yes.
The show did a fantastic job through Tywin's death. Then it just fell off a cliff.

End of s5 and s6 so far have been stunning tv. Look forward to reading what GRRM does in the books.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:33 pm

cutuphalfdead wrote:Once GRRM is done with ASOIAF, I would love to see an animated series that is 100% true to the books.

Agreed. They have already done some in comic books.

Norah · Post by **Norah** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:33 pm

Anders wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Once GRRM is done with ASOIAF, I would love to see an animated series that is 100% true to the books.
Agreed. They have already done some in comic books.

Yeah I haven't seen them but I've heard great things about those.

malice · Post by **malice** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:34 pm

Anders wrote:
malice wrote:
Anders wrote:
malice wrote:i don't have a problem with the book info being introduced, when it's relevant to the show but otherwise it just muddies the plot the show has laid out
It's the same story (just the books have more happening and more characters).
They aren't the same thing. Just like the lotr movies were not the same. Everyone understands that except you for some reason. The books and the series are no longer interchangeable due to the constraints inherent in the medium of tv vs books
I think LOTR basically was the same story. I've read the book (lotr) twice, and seen the movies several times.

Bigger changes here, but not to the main plot with Dany/Jon. At least not yet. Of course the series has gotten a lot further.

I dont care anymore. Youve bored me into submission.

Anders · Post by **Anders** » Fri August 11, 2017 4:35 pm

malice wrote:
Anders wrote:
malice wrote:
Anders wrote:
malice wrote:i don't have a problem with the book info being introduced, when it's relevant to the show but otherwise it just muddies the plot the show has laid out
It's the same story (just the books have more happening and more characters).
They aren't the same thing. Just like the lotr movies were not the same. Everyone understands that except you for some reason. The books and the series are no longer interchangeable due to the constraints inherent in the medium of tv vs books
I think LOTR basically was the same story. I've read the book (lotr) twice, and seen the movies several times.

Bigger changes here, but not to the main plot with Dany/Jon. At least not yet. Of course the series has gotten a lot further.
I dont care anymore. Youve bored me into submission.

Always enjoy discussing with you. (No sarcasm)

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