53. Paper Cuts vs. Put You Down

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I don't really like either of these. Paper Cuts, I guess

[LoathedVermin72]

I fucking love Paper Cuts. Nirvana at peak Melvins influence. Sludgy, noisy, wonderful.

[Iholdthepain]

Paper Cuts easily!

[tragabigzanda]

Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

[Iholdthepain]

Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

[tragabigzanda]

Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

[LoathedVermin72]

Channing is awesome on Bleach. The production is the problem, not the playing.

[Iholdthepain]

Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

Ok maybe, but there's just something not right about pitch shifting, time stretching, and re-humanizing (whatever that is)... Give me some 2" tape, punch-ins, and a razor blade

[tragabigzanda]

Yeah, but those guitar, bass, and vocal tracks would still sound great. A new set of drum tracks would make the whole record sound huge.

[tragabigzanda]

Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

Ok maybe, but there's just something not right about pitch shifting, time stretching, and re-humanizing (whatever that is)... Give me some 2" tape, punch-ins, and a razor blade

I used to love to bias my 2" machine and try to splice tape. But recent advances in summing boxes and plug-ins have rendered that approach unnecessarily laborious in my mind. Track digital, sum through an analog box to tape for the glue (compression and HF/LF roll off), then back to digital for the mix.

[Iholdthepain]

Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

Ok maybe, but there's just something not right about pitch shifting, time stretching, and re-humanizing (whatever that is)... Give me some 2" tape, punch-ins, and a razor blade

I used to love to bias my 2" machine and try to splice tape. But recent advances in summing boxes and plug-ins have rendered that approach unnecessarily laborious in my mind. Track digital, sum through an analog box to tape for the glue (compression and HF/LF roll off), then back to digital for the mix.

I was just kidding about the tape... Can one even find a reel of clean 2" tape anymore? I thought it was all discontinued a few years back. Also, the tape splicing was indeed laborious, but it was a labor of love. All the tracking I ever do anymore is in Audacity... as a hobby, not as a job.

[tragabigzanda]

There was a company that started making new tape several years back. Early reports were that it shed like crazy, and I know they changed something in the process to minimize that. No idea if they're still going or not.

[PHATJ]

Paper Cuts